Anyone own any WW2 Weapons?

[ApeX]

Just wondering. We have 3 at our house. All are from our family.

We have a m1a1 Carbine with three* clips, it doesn't have the original box or anything, just the gun. Pretty nice.

It's a M1917 Enfield We also have this bolt rifle, i'm not sure what kind of rifle it is, I would have to get a picture and see if anyone know what it is. I posted this on another forum before and people tryed to figure out what it was, there is a picture that's really similar to it i'll have to find again. Though, it comes with the original bayonet, 4 cases of original bullets in original box on a metal clip thing, like a m1 garang clip. It has the original box it was shipped with. It's pretty neat, i'll get some pictures soon.

Anyone else got any?

Pictures
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M1Carbine -
M1Carbine in case (http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/2150/m1carbineincase5pg.jpg)
M1Carbine alone (http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4355/m1carbinealone3op.jpg)
M1Carbine look down sights (http://img326.imageshack.us/img326/5944/m1carbinesights5nt.jpg)
M1Carbine w/ clips (http://img326.imageshack.us/img326/4813/m1carbinewclips9qt.jpg)

Rifle - M1917 Enfield
Rifle's original box (http://img326.imageshack.us/img326/1251/riflebox5ck.jpg)
Rifle in box (http://img306.imageshack.us/img306/4237/rifleinbox7lr.jpg)
Rifle alone (http://img326.imageshack.us/img326/4774/rifle8mj.jpg)
Rifle with Bayonet, bolt, and 2 ammos clips out of a few boxes we have (http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7918/rifleeverything2tl.jpg)

Sniper(I think this sniper was used by my great grandfather for sniper training, it is a .22 rifle. It has a mini clip above the trigger not visible, but there is a button to eject clip which you can see on the side picture of the sniper right next to the trigger)
Sniper in box (http://img306.imageshack.us/img306/8860/sniperinbox8ee.jpg)
Sniper alone (http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/4259/sniperalone1wb.jpg)
Sniper looking down side/scope of gun (http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/7522/snipersidescope1iv.jpg)

M1917 Enfield - more info here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1917_Enfield_rifle
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/rfl19-e.htm
Thanks Wolfsburg for clearing that up.

[NicholasJohnson]

My grandpa owns an 1891 Mosin Nagant that was modified for hunting I believe. The stock and barrel are both cut down.

He got the gun through his father, who had recieved it through the KKK during the 50s. :eek:

That's pretty creepy if you ask me.

[DaveP]

modified for hunting I believe. The stock and barrel are both cut down

I thought you said he was a gangst... I'll stop there ;)

I don't at current own any, but I know a guy with a Ppsh41 (and Mosin Nagant), and someone else with a k98

[NicholasJohnson]

FartCop was the one with gangster relatives. I had racist ones, but they have all died.

[SgtH3nry3]

I don't own it myself though: Dutch Browning HP Winchester M2 Carbine (without heatshield) Batavian (Dutch-Indies) M1941 JohnsonThose are either my Dad's or my grandfather's...

[Sgt So and So]

My grandfather has a Webley revolver used by the Brits. He was only a kid in WW2, and his Uncle got it from his buds. He doesn't let anyone near it anymore, though:p

[Lt. Hanley]

Just a K98 so far. It even has shrapnel hits on it. I will also be getting a couple M1 Garands in about a month as well.

[Tough Ombre 359th]

BAR 1918 (semi)

German officer's pistol (My Grandpa aquired it from a dead German. I don't have it in my possesion, waiting to get my pistol permit in a couple of weeks)

M-1 Grand

(Semi)Thompson Sub Machine gun 1921AC W/ 50 round drum (replicate)

[god_that_failed]

i own a japanese rifle and a japanese katana, both from dead japs.

ill edit this post later with the name of the rifle.

[ApeX]

BAR 1918 (semi)

German officer's pistol (My Grandpa aquired it from a dead German. I don't have it in my possesion, waiting to get my pistol permit in a couple of weeks)

M-1 Grand

(Semi)Thompson Sub Machine gun 1921AC W/ 50 round drum (replicate)


Ahhh, I want a BAR so bad. That's like a dream gun! :|

[Sgt So and So]

i own a japanese rifle and a japanese katana, both from dead japs.

ill edit this post later with the name of the rifle.

Sweet! Those are REALLY valuable if they're real!(Since the Japs had their whole military scrapped after the Allies won) I really want one...:D

[god_that_failed]

the are real, just ask a WWII historian. the katana is broken though.

i think the rifle is a Arisaka Type 38 rifle, not sure though.

[DarkCanuck]

pretty crzy stuff. hold on to your weapons if they are authentic. you will make your grand children good money.

my buddy has a p38...I have no guns...I live in Canada most of your guns come from down south, but usually they are used in murders and tossed in lake Ontario. Thanks guys.

[god_that_failed]

right now im saving up money to buy a M1911.

[OliverMarshall]

I want to get an MG42 but that costs like $1,200 and my dad says I have to get all B's first in class. But that's crazy since there is a teacher in the grade who only gives C's!

I would also or either like a sniper rifle, maybe either a British, Russian or German one.

[god_that_failed]

K98?

[OliverMarshall]

k98 sniper, yea I would go with one of those.

[god_that_failed]

try impact guns(if you parents et you buy one), they got a lot of good shit there, i bought my remington 870 there.

[Kaos]

My Grandad has got two really awesome looking Italian shotguns. Benelli or Beretta something like that. :confused: I remember dad telling me it was from a war not sure which one.

[Wraiyth]

Not really a gun man myself, never even fired or touched one

[[FFTF]Eurofighter]

Well im my country its illegal to have guns.
And henry should be glad i dont call the cops for him muahahah :p


I don't own it myself though: Dutch Browning HP Winchester M2 Carbine (without heatshield) Batavian (Dutch-Indies) M1941 JohnsonThose are either my Dad's or my grandfather's...

what do u need a gun for anyway :)

[NicholasJohnson]

Eurofighter, this is NOT a gun control debate topic.

Read the Rules.

[SgtH3nry3]

Eurofighter']Well im my country its illegal to have guns.
And henry should be glad i dont call the cops for him muahahah :p



what do u need a gun for anyway :)Well all three of them are in the Virgin Islands... :D
At my grandfathers house... :D

But like Pfc. Jackson said... Let's stay ontopic. ;)

[DavidUpton]

Grandfather has a rifle, not WWII though.

[[BEF]-R!G4M0RT!Z]

I really want to get probably a replica rifle, such as a Lee-Enfield No. 4 Rifle, or maybe something small and British, such as the Sten gun, because I like the British stuff, despite the Sten being pretty prone to jamming. Also I would like em cos I want to get a full Para uniform. I, however do not have any guns, mainly due to the fact that I am 15, lol, but my parents or family don't really own any anyway. :(

[enigma]

dont own any, but ive always wanted a Lee Enfield no.4 mk1, i dont know why just have lol :confused:

although my family would forbay such purchase while i still live with them.

[[BEF]-R!G4M0RT!Z]

dont own any, but ive always wanted a Lee Enfield no.4 mk1, i dont know why just have lol :confused:

although my family would forbay such purchase while i still live with them.


Same here about the family thing, LoL

[OliverMarshall]

If anyone would like to purchase DEACTIVATED militaria then I recommend these two sites.

US:
http://www.ima-usa.com/index.php

UK:
www.worldwidearms.com

[[BEF]-R!G4M0RT!Z]

Or, if you live in the UK, and want to see the weapon before you buy it, or any other piece of militaria, then I strongly recommend Beltring Military Show, at Hop Farm, in Kent. I'm not exactly sure of the dates, but I think it is somewhere around the 19th-23rd July.

[god_that_failed]

i thik ill buy an authentic medical set issued by the british in WWII. its unused.

[sooch90]

I wanna get these guns in this order.

M1 Garand

Colt 1911

BAR

Thompson



^I dunno if that's what they're properly called. The list could go on forever, but those are my top 4.

[ApeX]

A M1 Garand would be a nice gun to own, but meh wouldn't be one of my choices.

I really want a BAR though, oi, that is indeed a beutifull gun...mmm, especially with a bipod.

Thompson would also be a nice gun.

A Russian gun I want is the PPSH1, think it was called. Would be sweet.

[Edub]

My friends uncle owns a Kar 98, Were gonna shoot it next time at the range :)

[enigma]

A Russian gun I want is the PPSH1, think it was called. Would be sweet.
nearly got it :) ppsh41 :) ,
one of these nasty lil things:
link (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.modelguns.co.uk/images/ppsh1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.modelguns.co.uk/ppsh41.htm&h=198&w=700&sz=30&tbnid=Jq01k7jS7yNHzM:&tbnh=39&tbnw=138&hl=en&start=10&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dppsh1%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D% 26sa%3DN)

[Wraiyth]

If I was to get a gun, I'd take probably an M1A1 Thompson, M1 Garand or a Springfield sniper (1903 I think they are)

[sethe69]

I have a k-98 ( made in 1945 ) a luger ( rare as hell, worth over 25,000) and my grandpa and I are buying 2 m1's this summer!

[sethe69]

A M1 Garand would be a nice gun to own, but meh wouldn't be one of my choices.

I really want a BAR though, oi, that is indeed a beutifull gun...mmm, especially with a bipod.

Thompson would also be a nice gun.

A Russian gun I want is the PPSH1, think it was called. Would be sweet.

i would love a BAR, but the liscence to own a fully auto weapon would be probably more than the weapon itself

[[FFTF]Eurofighter]

Eurofighter, this is NOT a gun control debate topic.

Read the Rules.

easy mate just wanted to say its ilegal here so its hard to have one here. Why has everyone gotten so grumphy lately :confused:
anyway i would love to have a luger

[Tsoman]

I own a mauser and a mosin nagant M38.

[ChristopherFaucon]

Currently acquiring a M1 Garand - SA - Barrel Dated 1944.

[Wolfsburg]

I own an M1 Carbine, receiver dated early 1944. She's a great little piece... I also own a 1943 dated 1911A1

I noted some of you want automatic weapons (Thompsons, Stens, BARs, etc.) but you might want to keep in mind that they are 1. rare to come by 2. expensive and 3. (as Sethe69 noted) You must have a license to own one, at least in the US.;)

I also noted that some of you say you have Mauser and Arisaka snipers. If they're genuine then they are worth quite a bit of money. Sniper rifles of just about any kind can fetch a hefty price as they are rare pieces.

[RedDevil(NL)]

I own an Lee Enfield no4 or a no1 :confused: don't really now with one it is:D

[ThomasStewart]

I own an M1 Carbine, receiver dated early 1944. She's a great little piece... I also own a 1943 dated 1911A1

I noted some of you want automatic weapons (Thompsons, Stens, BARs, etc.) but you might want to keep in mind that they are 1. rare to come by 2. expensive and 3. (as Sethe69 noted) You must have a license to own one, at least in the US.;)

I also noted that some of you say you have Mauser and Arisaka snipers. If they're genuine then they are worth quite a bit of money. Sniper rifles of just about any kind can fetch a hefty price as they are rare pieces.

More-so the scopes and mounts makeup the money. Its when you get matching armourer numbers between the scope, mount and weapon that the real money comes into play; because it is quite easy for someone to aquire a scope and self-mount it onto a normal deact or live fire K98. I think they call matching numbers, provenance:)

[DavidUpton]

I own an Lee Enfield no4 or a no1 :confused: don't really now with one it is:D

More likely a No. 4, which is actually quite common these days.

[OliverMarshall]

More-so the scopes and mounts makeup the money. Its when you get matching armourer numbers between the scope, mount and weapon that the real money comes into play; because it is quite easy for someone to aquire a scope and self-mount it onto a normal deact or live fire K98. I think they call matching numbers, provenance:)

Yea I saw an MG34 with unmatching parts for $2,100, but one with matching parts went for $10,000

[justus]

Kar-98 and a Mosin Nagant that's all.

[Wolfsburg]

More-so the scopes and mounts makeup the money. Its when you get matching armourer numbers between the scope, mount and weapon that the real money comes into play; because it is quite easy for someone to aquire a scope and self-mount it onto a normal deact or live fire K98. I think they call matching numbers, provenance:)

You're definately right. Many people mount modern (or at least unoriginal) scopes to C&R rifles for hunting (or deceptive) purposes, and that sometimes fools people into thinking they have a real sniper rifle. I know I've seen 1903A3s mounted with scopes along with the claim that they are genuine 1903A4s. The same goes for Mausers and Arisakas. Mosin Nagant 91/30 snipers are they only ones that I've seen that are remotely affordable for someone with a moderate budget.

[milo1047]

My great uncle has two Japense rifles, with bayonets, a katana, and I think a Nambu pistol he brought home from the pacific. Myself, i don't own any. I hope to get my hands on a Mosin-nagant 91/30, though.

[ThomasStewart]

You're definately right. Many people mount modern (or at least unoriginal) scopes to C&R rifles for hunting (or deceptive) purposes, and that sometimes fools people into thinking they have a real sniper rifle. I know I've seen 1903A3s mounted with scopes along with the claim that they are genuine 1903A4s. The same goes for Mausers and Arisakas. Mosin Nagant 91/30 snipers are they only ones that I've seen that are remotely affordable for someone with a moderate budget.

But then Russian weapons are no rarety...over here you can pick up a mosin for around £100. Up until a couple of years ago, I posessed a PPSH41 and all the spares...X2 drum mags....sling...cleaning kit....2 pouches. £190 and I sold it for £200. Wish I hadnt sold it though. :rolleyes: Will hopefully have a 98k by end of July.

[Wolfsburg]

But then Russian weapons are no rarety...over here you can pick up a mosin for around £100. Up until a couple of years ago, I posessed a PPSH41 and all the spares...X2 drum mags....sling...cleaning kit....2 pouches. £190 and I sold it for £200. Wish I hadnt sold it though. :rolleyes: Will hopefully have a 98k by end of July.


Yeah, Russian firearms are a dime a dozen due to the fact that so many were made (millions upon millions) and their surplus stores are huge. Because modern Russia is in dire financial straits, they're selling their surplus like there's no tomorrow, which is good for us collectors!:D I don't own any Russian rifles, but I'd certainly like to pick a few up. As you noted, they are very affordable and are a great way for a beginning collector to start his or her collection. Kar.98ks are pretty affordable too (at least the Russian captured ones are), though all-matching, non-RC examples fetch a higher price.

I'd love to own a PPSh41. Was yours capable of full auto fire, or modified to semi-auto?

[Lozza]

My uncle's got a Bren MkII, a very heavy gun! Makes you wonder how you run around with it on COD2, it is so damn heavy. He's also got a lee-enfield and a sten MKIII, and a few random pistols. It is interesting to see how each gun is kind of different, there were loads of different Bren MKII's at this WW2 show I went to, and they all had different sights and barrels and things. I saw a MG42 there with the stand which was £1200.

All of these weapons that I saw brought out my major critisims of games today, none have got them right yet. I hope 1944 is the first.

[Zavaro]

I myself do not own any WWII weapons. I do own a Russian helmet from WWII, but that's the closest thing to a weapon I have. My uncle owns a Kar98. I've fired a few rounds with it, it's a nice gun but I'd prefer his Kalashnikov AK-47.

Though I was thinking about buying myself a Mosin Nagant. I couldn't seem to find one on the website listed earlier. Anyone else know of a place in the US where I could find a cheap disabled Mosin?

[Wolfsburg]

Specifically, what Mosin Nagant do you have in mind? There are numerous C&R firearm suppliers online though I'm not sure where a good source for *disabled* rifles would be. All suppliers I've seen only have fully functioning mechandise. Also unless you have your own FFL 03 license you'll have to get a gunshop to order it for you. Most all online suppliers won't ship to anyone without a license.

Just Google the rifle you have in mind and I'm sure you'll get some leads.

[ApeX]

So, i'll be borrowing a friends digital camera and taking some pics of my weapons, i'll take some good pics of the bolt rifle because i'm not sure what it is.

[Wolfsburg]

So, i'll be borrowing a friends digital camera and taking some pics of my weapons, i'll take some good pics of the bolt rifle because i'm not sure what it is.


Looking forward to seeing the pics.:)

[NicholasJohnson]

Why has everyone gotten so grumphy lately

Because after the influx of new members we have had many topics with people causing problems.

[ApeX]

I'll be having Some pictures of my WW2 weapons up on Monday. I'll get many shots, at different angles. I'll get some of the bayonet, the scopes, and some good shots of the m1 carbine.

[ThomasStewart]

Yeah, Russian firearms are a dime a dozen due to the fact that so many were made (millions upon millions) and their surplus stores are huge. Because modern Russia is in dire financial straits, they're selling their surplus like there's no tomorrow, which is good for us collectors!:D I don't own any Russian rifles, but I'd certainly like to pick a few up. As you noted, they are very affordable and are a great way for a beginning collector to start his or her collection. Kar.98ks are pretty affordable too (at least the Russian captured ones are), though all-matching, non-RC examples fetch a higher price.

I'd love to own a PPSh41. Was yours capable of full auto fire, or modified to semi-auto?

Unfortunately my PPSH41 was deactivated to comply with home office standards; although I do keep a (100% legal) umarex BF 8mm Browning High Power semi-auto pistol. We arent quite as "lucky" as you yanks lol. Definately not getting a Russian captured K98 enless it is been totally refurbed. The Russians have a habbit of using awful packing greace and they pore sealant onto the weapons which turns the wood a redy-brown. They come with no cleaning rod or sling. :mad: And I'm supposed to spend £200+ of my money on doing something an armourer should be doing - I.E. stripping and refurbishing. I'd rather spend £300+ on a nice un-touched one from non-eastern block stock. :) The prices in this country are stupid, in the past 4 years Ive seen them almost double on deact weapons. If only I had started to re-enact/collect at an earlier age...

[Lt. Hanley]

I bought an RC, and it's really no big deal to get the cosmoline off. Just take down the rifle, soak the metal parts in denatured alcohol or mineral spirits, take them out and wipe them down with CLP...done. Seriously, you haven't lived until you've dealt with cosmo! :)

Also, the shellac the Russians used doesn't turn the wood a different color, the shellac is that red color. If you take it off with DA, the wood is its natural color. The DA also takes off the black paint they used to paint the buttplates, and on some, the takedown disks. Which reminds me...please make sure the ingame k98's all have in-the-white buttplates! Black buttplates are only found on RC's.

A good thing about RC's is that if you're collecting codes, it's easier to find more rare codes amongst these rifles instead of all original ones.

The next k98 I purchase will definitely be an all original one though.

[ThomasStewart]

Hi Hanley

Thing is mate, the shellac (I was searching for the word earlier, cheers! :cool: ) can actually stain the wood, hence why you need to strip it off.....it all seems a little too much work and money for something that at the end of the day has no provenance and is a mish mash of different weapons. I'd rather save the pfennigs and purchase a gucci one that only requires upkeep.

Thank you very much for the tips though, its good to see that the info does get passed round the pond. ;)

Tom.

[Wolfsburg]

Yeah, RC K.98ks are somewhat famous (or infamous ;) ) for their red shellac and dark bluing. Some people like it, while others don't. I'd like to get an original 98k, but you have to really make sure you know what you're doing. There are plenty of scammers out there who'd love to separate you from your money. Often times these guys will take RCs, add fake numbers/markings, etc. and try to pass them off as all original, at all original prices. ;) In the U.S., from what I've seen, an RC usually goes for $150-$300, while an untouched, all-original 98k may go for $600-$1000. Keep in mind that there are always exceptions (enter the high priced sniper/rare coded 98ks, the scammers selling RCs at inflated prices and ignorant sellers selling original 98ks at bargain prices).

[Hawklore]

I own the following WWII era weapons, nothing fancy.

M91/30 Nagant
Nagant Revolver
K98 Yugoslavian Capt. Mauser.

[Wolfsburg]

Yeah, I remember you posted pics of your Yugo K98k over at CWOS. Looked very nice! :)

[Lt. Hanley]

Thing is mate, the shellac (I was searching for the word earlier, cheers! :cool: ) can actually stain the wood, hence why you need to strip it off.

Interesting, I didn't know that, but it makes sense. Do you happen to have a pic of a stock this happened to? Most of the refinished RC stocks I've seen didn't have a red hue to the wood unless it was a laminated stock with red glue, but then it's just where the glue shows that it is red.

Totally understand about saving up for the real deal (I'm doing the same :D), and you're welcome for the tips.


I'd like to get an original 98k, but you have to really make sure you know what you're doing. There are plenty of scammers out there who'd love to separate you from your money. Often times these guys will take RCs, add fake numbers/markings, etc. and try to pass them off as all original, at all original prices.
QFT

If any of you are in the market for an original k98, I would highly recommend joining up with the k98 forum at gunboards.com. Some very knowledgeable collectors there that will be more than happy to teach/answer questions about what to look for on an original rifle, and how to tell when a rifle has been boinked (for instance there are several spots on a k98 where it's easier to tell if a rifle has been renumbered). I've learned so much just hanging around there. Here's the new collector FAQ one of the members put together: http://www.gunboards.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=118159

[Wolfsburg]

Gunboards is an excellent resource and is one of my regular haunts. I heartily second Hanley's recommendation.

[futurenhler]

Officially going gun hunting in June or so in Florida. I'm hoping to find something nice:) On an off topic note, what did the B.A.R. stand for? Something automatic rifle?

[Wolfsburg]

Browning Automatic Rifle

[DaveHill]

Browning Automatic Rifle.

[futurenhler]

Oh, Thank you
roughly what do alot of WWII guns cost?

[Wolfsburg]

It really just depends on the weapon. Russian bolt action rifles (such as the 91/30 or M.38) can be as low as $60-$70, while automatic weapons (like the MP-40) can cost $10,000 or more. Condition, originality, desirability and rarity all play a role.

[futurenhler]

Well I have 9 thousand that I was gonna save for a car, but I got the car for way cheaper, so I have around 9 thousand left over.

[metsapeikko]

Yeah well we have one finnish rifle, which were used in "Talvisota" Winter war, when Soviet attacked to finland. (Im sorry for my bad english.)

[ThomasStewart]

Interesting, I didn't know that, but it makes sense. Do you happen to have a pic of a stock this happened to? Most of the refinished RC stocks I've seen didn't have a red hue to the wood unless it was a laminated stock with red glue, but then it's just where the glue shows that it is red.

Totally understand about saving up for the real deal (I'm doing the same :D), and you're welcome for the tips.


QFT

If any of you are in the market for an original k98, I would highly recommend joining up with the k98 forum at gunboards.com. Some very knowledgeable collectors there that will be more than happy to teach/answer questions about what to look for on an original rifle, and how to tell when a rifle has been boinked (for instance there are several spots on a k98 where it's easier to tell if a rifle has been renumbered). I've learned so much just hanging around there. Here's the new collector FAQ one of the members put together: http://www.gunboards.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=118159

Hi, I dont posses any pictures, but a friend of mine had an RC stock which he had to sand down to remove the stain the shellec had created. Its not a drastic amount of sanding, but the Russian packing techniques sure do make ugly looking K98s. And its the difference between being "authentic" (returning them to their original condition) and just refurbishing them to looking 'good'.

Also, as you say, laminated stocks do tend to give off a red line down the grain.

Cheers
Tom.

[ApeX]

Well, wanted to make a new post instead of them being lost on my other one. Anyway, I finally got them, and hope someone can give me more info on the sniper and rifle.

M1Carbine -
M1Carbine in case (http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/2150/m1carbineincase5pg.jpg)
M1Carbine alone (http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4355/m1carbinealone3op.jpg)
M1Carbine look down sights (http://img326.imageshack.us/img326/5944/m1carbinesights5nt.jpg)
M1Carbine w/ clips (http://img326.imageshack.us/img326/4813/m1carbinewclips9qt.jpg)

Rifle Mk, thanks guys I guess it is a M1917 Enfield
Rifle's original box (http://img326.imageshack.us/img326/1251/riflebox5ck.jpg)
Rifle in box (http://img306.imageshack.us/img306/4237/rifleinbox7lr.jpg)
Rifle alone (http://img326.imageshack.us/img326/4774/rifle8mj.jpg)
Rifle with Bayonet, bolt, and 2 ammos clips out of a few boxes we have (http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7918/rifleeverything2tl.jpg)

Sniper(I think this sniper was used by my great grandfather for sniper training, it is a .22 rifle. It has a mini clip above the trigger not visible, but there is a button to eject clip)
Sniper in box (http://img306.imageshack.us/img306/8860/sniperinbox8ee.jpg)
Sniper alone (http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/4259/sniperalone1wb.jpg)
Sniper looking down side/scope of gun (http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/7522/snipersidescope1iv.jpg)

K, it's a M1917 Enfield - more info here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1917_Enfield_rifle
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/rfl19-e.htm
Thanks Wolfsburg for clearing that up.

Enjoy, ApeX

[Wolfsburg]

First I'd like to say you have some beautiful firearms there.

Your rifle appears to be an M1917, which is a American WWI era rifle. It was based on the British Pattern 14 Enfield and was chambered in the 30-06 caliber as opposed to the typical British 303. It appears to be in excellent condition. It was actually built in greater numbers than the more famous Springfield 1903 during WWI. Alvin York wielded one of these in that famous incident when he captured all those Germans. :)

Your "sniper" rifle appears to be a training rifle (as you said), but I couldn't tell you exactly what it is. It's technically not a sniper, though. ;)

[Wolfsburg]

Here's a link that explains the 1917 in more detail than I.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1917_Enfield_rifle

[ApeX]

Well, I know it isn't technically a sniper, but yeah you know what I mean. Also thanks for that info on the m1917, it looks as if it is that gun.

[Edub]

Nice pics Apex!

[00Apoc00]

i do not own any WW2 weapons but i do own a civil war saber. This saw combat and saved the general's life who was wareing it, in its scabard. A rifle round hit the sword while it was in the scabard. The dent from the round is still there. I have journals and other sources proving this i just dont feel like digging them out.

[Lordwatson]

Blast I wish I lived in America, I will never be able to use the firearms I want here in Britland.
Any WW2 weapons? No but I have a hand grenade from the first world war, no charge in it though :) Not to say I dont have rifles and shotguns but thats as far as you can get here, SHotguns can only have a max of 3 rounds if automatic. I reckon it would be possible to get a Garand or a Carbine here but no auto weapons

[Lordwatson]

Thats one hell of a scope you got on that sniper rifle!
Whats the magnification and objective lens width on it. Looks powerful!
I only got a 6x40 if I recall correctly, but hey, its a nice weapon

[Arturo]

Nice weapons... I would like to get a Mosin Nagant soon

[Kaos]

Man that's a wicked sniper!

[ThomasStewart]

Semi-auto rifles (Garand/Carbines for example) in Britain must be held on a section 5 firearms cirt. You can own a live fire K98 (or any bolt action rifle) on a Fire Arms cirt 1.

[Lordwatson]

Ah yes, I think you can get them from IMA in the US, they are cool!

[metsapeikko]

Hmm infact we have one m/39 "Ukko-pekka". (M/39 were used by finnish army in war against the soviets.)

[TheLastMarine]

Those are some Nice weapons. Where'd you get them at? if you don't mind telling :D

[ApeX]

Those are some Nice weapons. Where'd you get them at? if you don't mind telling :D


From our family. Both Grandfathers.

[TheLastMarine]

Nice, I'm going to buy a M1, and hopefully a M1917 Enfield too :)

[DaveP]

Please mate, keep it all in one topic, we don't want this to turn into the "Your personal hand-cannon" forum section.

(trying to) Merge Posts.

[ApeX]

Bah, ok. Sorry about that. I'll put it on my first post to for everyone who comes in can see it.

[Shnur]

Last year i bought my dad a replica russian tokarev SLR for christmas. It's an SVT-40.

[Hawklore]

Here are photos of my K98.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/Hawklore/Mauserfence.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/Hawklore/Mauser6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/Hawklore/Kwai.jpg (I guess I really have two german weapons)


All of the bolt weapons I own.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/Hawklore/Bolts.jpg


My Soviet Russian Gear.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/Hawklore/Picture006.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/Hawklore/Russianuniform.jpg

[[BEF]-R!G4M0RT!Z]

Nice equipment. I like the photo with the dog and the mauser, it looks good in the B+W style.

[Wolfsburg]

Nice pics, Hawk. I love the stock on your 91/30.

What is the top rifle in this pic?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/Hawklore/Bolts.jpg


It looks a bit like a Carcano of some kind.

[ThomasStewart]

Mosin Carbine isnt it?

[Wolfsburg]

Well, I don't think it's a MN Carbine. The butt doesn't have the distinctive Mosin "hump", there's no stock bolt, and the magazine looks different. ;)

Here's a M.38 Carbine:

*EDITED*

Here's a M.91/59 Carbine. It's just a 91/30 that has been shortened.

http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Bunker/4064/gunimages/Miscellaneous/1943M9159.jpg

Here's M.44 Carbine. It's practically identical to a M.38, but has an integrated bayonet.

http://www.burnerstoys.hostrocket.com/images/M44%20jepg.jpg

[boko123]

My ideal weapon would be a FG-42 i hope so much that i get to use one heaps in the game at least...

[emery]

My ideal weapon would be a FG-42 i hope so much that i get to use one heaps in the game at least...
I don't think you will get to use it much as it was really rare in Normandy I'm afraid.

[Wolfsburg]

Did the pic of the M.38 in my above post go dead?

[ThomasStewart]

Yeah.

[NicholasJohnson]

Did the pic of the M.38 in my above post go dead?

No, it was redirected to a pic of two guys mooning the camera.

[Wolfsburg]

Whoops, sorry about that. I guess that's what I get for leeching.

[DM690]

I have an M1 in excellent condition which I got for only about $600 at a gun show, it was used by the Danish military. Pretty low serial number as well. I don't have pictures of it anymore though, I lost them. Next on my list is an m38 or m44.

[Hawklore]

Steyr M.95

Budapest.

Missing the first band.

And I'm looking for ammo and clips.

[Wolfsburg]

Ahhh, I see. Great looking piece...

[Venzl]

I collect 101st Airborne stuff. I've alot of uniforms, and alot of gear.
Also I have 2 weapons, both are from World War 2, and were used in WW2.

I have;
- M1A1 Thompson
- M1 Garand

The Thompson I've bought in Normandy, in the shop Static Line. Michel de Trez is the owner of the shop. The Garand I've bought in Bastogne.

[Kaos]

Steyr M.95

Budapest.

Missing the first band.

And I'm looking for ammo and clips.

I had no idea Steyr was that old.

[Dolman]

I have
Mauser K98
(plus a couple of bayonets)
MG34
(plus Transit chest with all accessories and toolkit)
MG42
(plus Laffette tripod for MG42)
MP40
(plus pouches and six mags)
MP44
(plus Pouches - still accumulating mags)
P.38
Hardhell holster x2 and softshell holster)
P.08
(hardshell holster 1918 dated)
Browning HP
Softshell holster, 2 spare mags and a lanyard)
Mauser C96
Walther PPK
Softshell holster and 1 spare mag)
Skorpion Vz61 (don't ask!)
Panzerfaust60 (x2)
Panzerschreck

I had
PPSH41
(plus two drum mag pouches with spare drum mags adn a pouch containign three stick mags)
I sold it last year.......

Jeez! I didn't realise I had that much stuff until I listed it!

[NortherlyNanook]

Wow. Quite an arsenal. Will you ever fire the Panzerfausts just for the heck of it?

[Hawklore]

I'll be picking up the Semi-Auto PPSH-41...

Unless he's paying over $1,000 a year in taxes I don't think he can legally own or fire a live panzerschreck...

Same with his 42 and 34..

Unless their semi-auto.

[NortherlyNanook]

Well, I didn't really mean at his house or something... Wyoming, unlike Montana, is useless and open...

[[BEF]-R!G4M0RT!Z]

Maybe some of the weapons are de-activated...:confused:

[ThomasStewart]

I have
Mauser K98
(plus a couple of bayonets)
MG34
(plus Transit chest with all accessories and toolkit)
MG42
(plus Laffette tripod for MG42)
MP40
(plus pouches and six mags)
MP44
(plus Pouches - still accumulating mags)
P.38
Hardhell holster x2 and softshell holster)
P.08
(hardshell holster 1918 dated)
Browning HP
Softshell holster, 2 spare mags and a lanyard)
Mauser C96
Walther PPK
Softshell holster and 1 spare mag)
Skorpion Vz61 (don't ask!)
Panzerfaust60 (x2)
Panzerschreck

I had
PPSH41
(plus two drum mag pouches with spare drum mags adn a pouch containign three stick mags)
I sold it last year.......

Jeez! I didn't realise I had that much stuff until I listed it!

Hey P'Diddy

This man couldnt be anymore modest if he tride.;)

Nice to see you pottering around on here.

Tschuss
Tom.

[Dolman]

Wow. Quite an arsenal. Will you ever fire the Panzerfausts just for the heck of it?

He he he.... IF only they knew Sani..... if only they knew.....:rolleyes:

http://uploads.afra.org.uk/karlsimages/video/panzershreck.wmv

No shitting!!!
Oh - and in pounds sterling - I pay a helluva lot more than a thou a year!!!!!!!!!!!! b45t4rd tax men!

Deact - live fire... Wan't mentioned at the start although Sani could pollute the thread with us firing this stuff.... You do still have the pictures don't you Sani????

Didn't want to mention the HK Stuff as we only borrowed that!!! Ha ha ha ha!!!! along with the G43.... and..... Oh I@ll shut up now I'm getting boring

[ThomasStewart]

Ahhh yes, if only...if only....

Mr walls will not be happy with his bandwidth being leached from tha' video. Although it is amasing what AFRA get up to...;)

I'm sure I could polute the thread with many a fine image, but then my subliminal advertising would be on par with 1950's cigerette firms...

"Hey ma! The crop sure is lookin mighty fine this summer. SMOKE. Hey lassy theres someone down the well!! ARE YOU SMOKING YET!?....."

[DavidUpton]

Anyone know any good places to buy deactivated firearms at a price that won't make me commit suicide? Purely out of interest, I'm hoping to start re-enactment and the price for the kit alone will burn a hole in my pocket.

By the way, nice video Dolman. ;)

[westy]

I too have been looking into buying deactivated guns. YOu could go to the cobbaton tank museum they sell deac guns there.

http://www.cobbatoncombat.co.uk/sales/deac.htm

They seem to be reasonable prices too.

I also remember another site but they were very expenisve

http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/

Hope that helps

[ThomasStewart]

Anyone know any good places to buy deactivated firearms at a price that won't make me commit suicide? Purely out of interest, I'm hoping to start re-enactment and the price for the kit alone will burn a hole in my pocket.

By the way, nice video Dolman. ;)

Save the pfenigs Dave. Guns are only a small part of re-enacting and with time you do get bored/non-phased by them.

[DavidUpton]

Purely out of interest

;)

[BobStoneman]

I own a blank firing K98, SS Stamped.

and a de-act mp40.

they are the sex!

[ApeX]

I own a blank firing K98, SS Stamped.

and a de-act mp40.

they are the sex!

That's awesome.

I want a stg44, or a BAR. Those would be awesome to own.

[DavidUpton]

And expensive.

[Crazythumbs]

I've seen a BAR for 24,000, doubt you'll be getting that anytime soon ;)

I have a Type 99 Arisaka? preety sure thats what it is, I would post pics but I dont have any

I'm planning on getting a Mosin Nagant, preferably the 81/30, sometime soon.

[Kn!ght]

I have a Lee Enfield at home

[[BEF]-R!G4M0RT!Z]

What type??? And where do you call home, as in country???

[NortherlyNanook]

Might end up getting a Mosin-Nagant cheap. Didn't see what kind though.

[xtc-alec]

I am only 14 so i dont own a gun as of yet, but i have my JR licence so i can fire at the WW2 reenacting events i go to.

But when im 18 im getting a k98 First off

Then i wanna get my pistol licence (so hard to get :( ) so i can own a Luger/ walther

Then eventually some other German guns that i can use for reenacting :cool:

[Wubbles]

Where do you live XTC? UK?

[ThomasStewart]

He's an Ausy, Wubbles :)

[aag567]

I was thinking on getting a Mauser on ebay with my b-day money but all I found was parts for a Arisaka.

[[BEF]-R!G4M0RT!Z]

eBay don't sell weapons, do they??? Also, I would really love a Bren Gun, or something else which is awesome!

[Wubbles]

Ah, you Aussies sure do have tough gun laws down there.

[Wolfsburg]

-R!G4M0RT!Z']eBay don't sell weapons, do they???

No, eBay does not allow the sale of firearms. In the States, to have a firearm shipped directly to you, you must have a C&R license. Otherwise, you'll have to order whatever you want through a gun shop.

[ApeX]

Glad they don't have rough gun laws down here...but I bet if they did a lot of the crime would be cut back...

Oh well, can't fix everything.

[xtc-alec]

Ah, you Aussies sure do have tough gun laws down there.

Ja das ist true

[Hawklore]

Working on getting that Semi-Auto PPSH41 thats being manufactured.

Have it orderd, now just have to wait for them to ship in July!

:)

[DavidUpton]

Just went to a small reenactment today and saw an assortment of repro WWII weapons.

[[BEF]-R!G4M0RT!Z]

Wow, are these replica guns expensive?? And where might I find one?? Sounds cool.

Edit: What the hell?? Why does everybody else's post seem to dissappear?? Sani posted and now its gone...?

[ThomasStewart]

Expensive. £300 for an ABS plastic model MP40. £600+ for a metal MP40 replica. They are NOT toys lads, and only an armourer should convert a metal marushin replica to fire blanks (and only blanks).

[DavidUpton]

-R!G4M0RT!Z']Edit: What the hell?? Why does everybody else's post seem to dissappear?? Sani posted and now its gone...?

Its all an evil conspriacy... :rolleyes:

[ThomasStewart]

Surely its a con, perhaps we are conning him out of his hard earned wits? :rolleyes:

[[BEF]-R!G4M0RT!Z]

Surely its a con, perhaps we are conning him out of his hard earned wits? :rolleyes:

I dont get it...?? You posted saying they were Marushin replicas or something, and that they could fire 9mm blanks, and then the post was gone when I replied to it... Strange...:eek:

[ThomasStewart]

Nothing to see here people...keep moving......

http://www.cardsquad.com/images/2005/10/wiggum.gif

[[BEF]-R!G4M0RT!Z]

We need to get back on topic, because we have apparently veared straight off course. I spose it don't matter, maybe these posts will be deleted.

[xtc-alec]

dont worry sani posted it....he must be right...he is a medic :p

anyway our group has a replica panzerfaust, we are trying to get it spring loaded!! :cool:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/xtc-alec/SteveHaynes01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/xtc-alec/VolksgrenadierObergefreiter.jpg

[[BEF]-R!G4M0RT!Z]

And what group would that be?? Could you possibly provide link, because I like looking at re-enacting websites, especially with the galleries :p

[xtc-alec]

My group is CHS

Our gallaries arent so great, and the website only talks about the russian side we do.

Over all its a good site though.

http://sovietguards.com/Impression.htm

we also have a yahoo website with good gallaries but you gotta be a member of CHS.

[Luke Timothy]

I can't say I do own any guns/rifles... and I don't think my parents would appreciate having them around the house either.

[[BEF]-R!G4M0RT!Z]

My group is CHS

Our gallaries arent so great, and the website only talks about the russian side we do.

Over all its a good site though.

http://sovietguards.com/Impression.htm

we also have a yahoo website with good gallaries but you gotta be a member of CHS.

Thanks for the link, I am just looking around the site at the moment, it looks good :)

[xtc-alec]

Danke :p

[[BEF]-R!G4M0RT!Z]

Ja, das ist ein sehr gut website, es hat mir spass gemacht, weil es war sehr interessant, und es hat sehr cool photos:D

[xtc-alec]

hahaha your german is pretty good man *thumbs up*

[Lord Justin]

I'm really excited, as I recently saw the first actual weapon that I believe I have ever seen close up. One of my friend's relatives (grandfather?) had a Kar98 that (I believe) his great-grandfather fought for in WWI and took home. It was so cool hearing that signature clicking sound of the Kar98's bolt action in real life :D . He didn't have any ammo, but I got to look down the sights and cock it and stuff. Most of you here have many guns so you are probably thinking what a loser I am (;) ), but I was a kid in a candy store when I got to hold a real live K98 :D

But now my expectations are higher of 1944 to get it right! If I don't hear that bolt-action sound in the game exactly as I heard it on the weapon, I'll be angry :p Unfortunately it was a WWI-version with a shorter wooden base under the barrel, so not exactly what I will probably see in the game, but still the same weapon. Heh, now I just am even more anxious for the game :rolleyes:

[xtc-alec]

ahhh yes, the k98 is a fine gun indeed, nothing is better than putting in a fresh stripper clip then bolting a round into the chamber ;)

sounds like you would enjoy reenacting?

[Lord Justin]

ahhh yes, the k98 is a fine gun indeed, nothing is better than putting in a fresh stripper clip then bolting a round into the chamber ;)

sounds like you would enjoy reenacting?

I would be in heaven reenacting :) . If I can help it, it'll be a hobby of mine one day. Something I am kind of disappointed in was that I have heard very, very few games get the bolting sound done right. The only game I can think of was MOHAA :p . Every other game gives the Kar98 a kind of "ching" sound when it's just more of a "clack" sound. :o

[xtc-alec]

So how old are you? maybe we can help you get into reenacting.

EDIT: PM me you email so we can talk on MSN

[[BEF]-R!G4M0RT!Z]

hahaha your german is pretty good man *thumbs up*

Haha, thanks :p I try my best :D

[[BEF]-R!G4M0RT!Z]

Oh, somebody I used to know, his dad collects like de activated guns and stuff, and oh I was like a kid in a candy shop when he showed me them. He has an MG34, a Bren, a No.4 Lee Enfield, a K98, and an assortment of pistols, as well as an AK47. Not only does he have all these rifles, but he has uniforms, and other insignia. It was SOOO cool! Bren's feel bloody heavy, and they seem to have quite a bit of recoil even when mounted on the bipod. But then again I was about 12 when I saw all of these weapons. :D I absolutely loved cocking the weapons and pulling the trigger, its so much fun :D

[ThomasStewart]

I would be in heaven reenacting :) . If I can help it, it'll be a hobby of mine one day. Something I am kind of disappointed in was that I have heard very, very few games get the bolting sound done right. The only game I can think of was MOHAA :p . Every other game gives the Kar98 a kind of "ching" sound when it's just more of a "clack" sound. :o

If it was indeed captured during WWI it would be a Gew.98 and not a K98. The K98 was adopted during the 30s when things became mechanised. :)

[Neetje]

Back in 2004, the 17th of September... 60 Years after Market Garden...

I was in Arnhem:cool: And there were some polish reenactment guys(bad english)
And they had a Bren, a Sten MK3, a Sten MK5 and 2 Lee Enfields all Deactivated:D

And i was trying to shoulder the Bren but it was too heavy:o
I looked through the sight of the Lee Enfield and i felt right at home:D

Too bad i'm too young to own any weapons:mad:

But that was a hell of an experience:cool:

[Lord Justin]

If it was indeed captured during WWI it would be a Gew.98 and not a K98. The K98 was adopted during the 30s when things became mechanised. :)

Oh alright, well it's essentially the same weapon, right? Just the Kar98 was modified...

Heh, R!G4M0RT!Z, you sound like as much a historical weapon fan as I am :p (same with Neetje). At first when I cocked my friend's rifle, I thought I was doing something wrong because I didn't expect the upward action to require any force. It was so fun cocking it, though. I also didn't realize how far away the rear sights are...they're much closer on most modern weapons and most allied WW weapons.

Now I can really get a feel for what it may have been like for some Germans, although I've obviously never been shot at...:o

[ThomasStewart]

Oh alright, well it's essentially the same weapon, right? Just the Kar98 was modified...

Heh, R!G4M0RT!Z, you sound like as much a historical weapon fan as I am :p (same with Neetje). At first when I cocked my friend's rifle, I thought I was doing something wrong because I didn't expect the upward action to require any force. It was so fun cocking it, though. I also didn't realize how far away the rear sights are...they're much closer on most modern weapons and most allied WW weapons.

Now I can really get a feel for what it may have been like for some Germans, although I've obviously never been shot at...:o

Essentially I guess they are simmilar in looks.....

You guys are pussies, if you think holding a bren for 5 seconds is heavy, try lugging round an MG34 or 42 for a day! :p Or even being the number 2 and carrying the ammo for it. THAT my friends is heavy.

[[BEF]-R!G4M0RT!Z]

Essentially I guess they are simmilar in looks.....

You guys are pussies, if you think holding a bren for 5 seconds is heavy, try lugging round an MG34 or 42 for a day! :p Or even being the number 2 and carrying the ammo for it. THAT my friends is heavy.

You are obviously correct, seeing as you are Sani, but then again I was like 12 or something!! I'm not saying I wouldn't find it heavy now, but...:D

[ThomasStewart]

Brens are nice weapons, its a shame though that the modern British army decided to put the GPMG into a HMG role and introduce the L85/6 as a throw back to the Bren gun. At least the bren had a bit of spray on it and didnt fall apart.

Thank goodness the new 'LMG' class has been introduced....

woops, must get back to ww2 things. Brens - light, accurate, little too much recoil, but sweet to handle. ;)

[Neetje]

Brens are nice weapons, its a shame though that the modern British army decided to put the GPMG into a HMG role and introduce the L85/6 as a throw back to the Bren gun. At least the bren had a bit of spray on it and didnt fall apart.

Thank goodness the new 'LMG' class has been introduced....

woops, must get back to ww2 things. Brens - light, accurate, little too much recoil, but sweet to handle. ;)
Light?!?! I couldn't shoulder it so heavy it was:p
Those guys from Poland laughed at me:o But that Lee-Enfield was a real dream:cool:
That was Light and cocking it went smooth:rolleyes:

*Neetje dreams of days to come...?*
:D

[Lord Justin]

Essentially I guess they are simmilar in looks.....


No, what my friend has is a Karbiner 98. . . I don't know if a previous version, perhaps the WWI version, was named differently and had a shorter wooden base, but the gun itself, not concerning the stock, was a Kar98. I'm assuming that the Gewehr 98 was just an earlier version and the stock was extended to result in the Kar98. Correct me if I'm wrong in this.

[Crazythumbs]

Just got an 91/30 Mosin Nagant today. The gun is great smooth bolt, original bayonet and shoulder strap.
Came with a little description of the gun, it was made in 1940 and soon after captured by the Finns in the Winter War, and now I have it, pretty interesting.

In a week or two I hope to shoot it, just need some ammo for it, which is supposed to be in next week.

Oh yea, found and MG-42 for 875$ for anyone thats interested http://www.marstar.ca/fullauto/G-MG-42.htm
sounds too good to be true..

[Wolfsburg]

Actually, there was a shortened varient of the Gew.98 known as the K98a. This is not to be confused with the K98k of WWII fame.;)

[ThomasStewart]

My apolgies, Wolfie is correct.The K98a was introduced during WWI for artillerymen and sturmpionere. However there is also a gew.91 which is very similar to the K98a because it is at carbine length. The K98A was reissued to the Reichswehr units in the 20's and then retained by police units during the second world war.

If the stacking hook is prominant, then it could quite well be a K98A.

If its a Gew91 itl look like this:

http://gebirgskrieg.heim.at/Gewehr91-1.jpg

[aag567]

I'm planning on getting a laminated Mosin which is being sold for about $100, but I'm gonna have to use my dad's fire-arm lisense I think.

[McCoy [1st RB]]

my friend has a real old mg 42

[xtc-alec]

How old?

To me sliding another round into the chamber of the k98 and then shooting it is so friggen awesome. Half the time when i reenact i just hope for another russian to start running down the road so i can fire! The other half i am shit scared because...well....reenacting seems very very real and you cant help but get imersed in the moment. It feels like you ARE in WW2 and they ARE real bullets flying over your head. And when you get shot......for a split second.....you feel as if....your dead......

Sorry to rant, sani should know what im talking about :D

[[BEF]-R!G4M0RT!Z]

How old?

To me sliding another round into the chamber of the k98 and then shooting it is so friggen awesome. Half the time when i reenact i just hope for another russian to start running down the road so i can fire! The other half i am shit scared because...well....reenacting seems very very real and you cant help but get imersed in the moment. It feels like you ARE in WW2 and they ARE real bullets flying over your head. And when you get shot......for a split second.....you feel as if....your dead......

Sorry to rant, sani should know what im talking about :D

I wouldn't consider it a rant, I think you make it sound really cool, and interesting. I would love to re-enact when I am older :D

[xtc-alec]

Age isent a factor my friend, go over to these forums and post me and sani are there.

Someone will be able to hook you up to a unit near you that excepts your age.

Im only 14 ;)

The forums: http://wwiireenacting.co.uk/forum/index.php

[ThomasStewart]

Actually Alec I'm not there. Rather I would suggest www.panzergrenadier.net (http://www.panzergrenadier.net) for those interested in axis re-enactment. The WWII forum is dominated by allied centric re-enactors.

I get a little about what you were saying earlier alec, you can get immersed a little. But I wouldnt go so far as to say you actually think your dead. Although tbh an event we did this weekend was rather nerve racking with the pyro....I got hit on the ass by a burning chunk of pete :eek: ...how we laughed....some tommies helmets caught on fire, not so funny, but they did remind us of the British gas advert. And the public at the event loved it, thinking it was a special effect. :o

[xtc-alec]

Actually Alec I'm not there. Rather I would suggest www.panzergrenadier.net (http://www.panzergrenadier.net) for those interested in axis re-enactment. The WWII forum is dominated by allied centric re-enactors.

I get a little about what you were saying earlier alec, you can get immersed a little. But I wouldnt go so far as to say you actually think your dead. Although tbh an event we did this weekend was rather nerve racking with the pyro....I got hit on the ass by a burning chunk of pete :eek: ...how we laughed....some tommies helmets caught on fire, not so funny, but they did remind us of the British gas advert. And the public at the event loved it, thinking it was a special effect. :o

LOL, no i dont mean i think i am dead i mean like for a split second your like......"whoah". Anyway yeah the panzergrenadier forum is good if you wanna get help in axis reenacting.

[Jontasa]

hehe i own dissarmed k98 bullets bought on Utah beach...lol guess that doesent count:p

[NortherlyNanook]

Er. I have an old flintlock pistol... It might have been used! You never know!

[CBowling]

German Mauzer that was never used. Since they made so many of them, alot were put into storage with their cleaning kits and such and we decided to get one. Never used, but was built back in the day, still works.


My friend also has a Carbine, pretty nice.


My dad also bought a ruger, but I am not sure when those first came out. Semi-Auto rifle so.

[DavidUpton]

I own a Luger. Well, not yet. But I promise myself that one day, no matter what, I will buy myself a Luger at any cost.

[DarkCanuck]

I own a Luger. Well, not yet. But I promise myself that one day, no matter what, I will buy myself a Luger at any cost.


so what you are saying, is that you dont own a Luger?

lol just kidding mate. good luck on you endevors :p

[DavidUpton]

Well, actually I intend to endevor for:

Trousers
then shirt
then tunic
then hat
then boots

(20 years later)

Then luger.

[Wolfsburg]

I own a Luger. Well, not yet. But I promise myself that one day, no matter what, I will buy myself a Luger at any cost.

Well, using that same logic I own every type of pistol or rifle used in WWII. I actually don't own them now, but I will someday. :D

Besides the aforementioned M1 Carbine, I also have a 1943 K-31, a '43 M1911A1 and an early-'43 M1 Garand. I guess 1943 is my year. ;)

[Buckie]

being from NZ owning any weapon can be quite hard but i did have (when i was younger) the Tommy helmet and gas mask bag wish i still had then

My grandfather was in the home guard and they was passed down from him

[[BEF]-R!G4M0RT!Z]

I wanna buy some de-ac weapons, I'm hoping to get No. 4 Rifle, or a Luger :D

[Ripper]

-R!G4M0RT!Z']I really want to get probably a replica rifle, such as a Lee-Enfield No. 4 Rifle, or maybe something small and British, such as the Sten gun, because I like the British stuff, despite the Sten being pretty prone to jamming. Also I would like em cos I want to get a full Para uniform. I, however do not have any guns, mainly due to the fact that I am 15, lol, but my parents or family don't really own any anyway. :(

hey me too i want to get a full brit para uniform but its soo hard to come buy im 16 so cant get a proper gun but i do want an enfield or stem i know where you can get good stens

[Dave61218]

i have a german Lt. boot pistol with tigger cocking.

[[BEF]-R!G4M0RT!Z]

hey me too i want to get a full brit para uniform but its soo hard to come buy im 16 so cant get a proper gun but i do want an enfield or stem i know where you can get good stens

A replica sten, de-ac, or real? I'm 16 now, so, yea, I can't get a live firing one, but yea, I still want one :D
Go to Beltring Military show if you want a uniform, that is what I want to do. (That is if you live in the UK)

[westy]

Do you know anywhere other than cobbaton (i'll probably take a visit there this summer) to get deacs at a reasonable price? i know there is http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/ but its kinda pricy

[ThomasStewart]

Do you know anywhere other than cobbaton (i'll probably take a visit there this summer) to get deacs at a reasonable price? i know there is http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/ but its kinda pricy

Deactivated weapons are NOT toys, they are not airsoft BB guns and they are certainly at a reasonable price for what you are buying. Kids, there are people out there who devote their lives to buying and selling militaria, they go out to Russia, purchase say 100 k98's at £100 each, thats £10,000, they then have to pay "officials" for their export say another £10,000, they then have to ship these 100 k98's and whatever else they will have purchased, £5,000 including transport. They then have to pay people to unload the weapons....then sort them out....then they have to purchase web space to advertise the weapons are for sale....The money all builds up, whilst these people try to keep themselves in business and alive comfortably.
So think before you start spouting off about how "cool" these weapons are but how lowsey the prices are, they arent meant for kids they are meant for serious collectors who are willing and able to pay the correct price for a piece of history. Not so they can go on an internet forum and say "well111!! I 0wn a K98 (replace with whatever weapon) w000t w000t111".

My advice is to save your money, go out, find a girl thatl' do you and wait until you are older.

[[BEF]-R!G4M0RT!Z]

Maybe some people like being interested in guns, even if they are only 16. I think thats quite an unfair statement. I never said or implied that they WERE toys or BB guns. I simply said that it would be nice to own one, and I have, in the past seen them rather cheap at places such as Beltring military show, I'm just saying that de-activatedguns.co.uk, or whatever it is, is more expensive then what I have seen. So, are you saying teenagers can't be collectors of pieces of history!?!?

[enigma]

those prices arnt that bad imo, if one was to buy an antique they do seem reasonable.
Althoug i think id stick to airsoft weaponary ... if and when i finally get going to a centre.
*pictures self trotting around with a bren* :D

[ThomasStewart]

-R!G4M0RT!Z']Maybe some people like being interested in guns, even if they are only 16. I think thats quite an unfair statement. I never said or implied that they WERE toys or BB guns. I simply said that it would be nice to own one, and I have, in the past seen them rather cheap at places such as Beltring military show, I'm just saying that de-activatedguns.co.uk, or whatever it is, is more expensive then what I have seen. So, are you saying teenagers can't be collectors of pieces of history!?!?

Not at all, but in my honest opinion, people with the right attitude towards these items of weaponry should be the onest to collect it. The above post about imagining ones self trotting round with a bren is totally the wrong attitiude. I myself started with the same attitude as many here when I was 14, but when I started to re-enact I soon learnt that it was the wrong attitude. Its not "cool" to be seen with a weapon....its not even that "cool" to fire one (after a while it becomes very bla'zay)....the reason I opt to posses a blank firring replica of a browning high power isnt because I think its cool, I can think of X amount of "cool" things to have spent over £100 on; the reason I am getting a k98 is so I can progress my serious collection of German militaria, and thus progress my re-enactment impression as a soldier in the wehrmacht. And thus teach people about that specific time period.

So long as you portray the right attitude towards collecting and mainting these deactivated weapons, then you prove me wrong, but there are so many on this thread and even who attend events that I attend, that have the wrong attitude towards weapons - deactivated or live.

[ThomasStewart]

And deactivated guns the website has its prices at market value. Your comment about weapons being cheaper at Beltring is somewhat wrong. Naturally the price on weapons such as the K98, Lugar, P38 etc has increased over the past 2 years. A) Because more people are in the market for such items B) Because the suppliers to the vendors have worked this out - thus supply and demand. C) The vendors have to make money to live

A K98 two years ago was around the £150-200 mark, they are now £245-300.....go figure.

[[BEF]-R!G4M0RT!Z]

Ok, well, I have mentioned before, that it was about 2-3 years ago that I went to Beltring, so yea, I suppose you are right. But a serious collector has to start somewhere, even if it is when one is immature, and possesses the wrong attitude at the time.

[enigma]

may i point out,

i was on about airsoft


Although i think id stick to airsoft weaponary ... if and when i finally get going to a centre.
*pictures self trotting around with a bren*

You do realise am not stupid, people collect art, antiques (weaponary included) not because its 'cool' but because they are serious like you keep saying (talking of stuff like this, about a year ago an art student walked into the building i was working in and was showing me and a collegue his portfolio ... once in a life time visit then he was off to another town or city, they were touring europe ... painting as they went. His work was mostly nice but there was one painting which stood out, it was a Phoenix, the methods in which painted it made the picture even more brilliant. I wanted it but alas did not have the green. Why did i want it? Was it because it was 'cool'? no ... because it appealed to something inside me - so you see i do understand where you are coming from ;)).

Whereas i pointed out i did not see what was so wrong with the prices on that site, and then went on to say if and when i get to an airsoft centre like ive been promising myself for the x ammount of months (no wheels is mainly the reason i havnt) i think it would rather fun, if and when i get into the game, to have something a lil different, something out of the ordinary ... not an AK or an M4 like everyone else but something unique ....
hence the :
*pictures self trotting around with a bren*

;)

edit: with a healthy dose of screaming and probably a dension .... ooo i can picture it now.

[ThomasStewart]

You can simply say that anything we want "appeals" to us, but there is a difference between wanting something for the sex appeal, and wanting something because it is a serious devotion. A committed re-enactor is gauged by his input to the hobby, but also by his collection, buying a reproduction uniform doesnt make you anymore of a collector/re-enactor than buying a weapon makes you a weapons collector or buying a painting makes you an art collector. Which brings me round to my point, for the magority, wanting a ww2 weapon is a fad, a frivelous endulgance of ones ego, like some dudes want a Ferrari, its not a practical vehilce, but you want one to show off to your friends. For others, its about seriously collecting and displaying a series of Ferrari's or sports cars / ww2 weapons and equipment.

[enigma]

For painting at least ... i wasn’t saying if i had of bought it i would then be a serious art collector nor was i saying that because i wanted it - it appealed to me.
It hit something inside.

As for the weaponry, airsoft or de-act. Your basically saying if your not a re-enactor you should steer clear as your not worthy of owning one and thus you just indulging your ego?
(Ferrari - reminds me ... some dude driving down the back streets of Liverpool last week in one ... had to stop on a corner due to a traffic jam ... right next to a pub full of druken scousers ... surprised he wasnt jacked. Even me and my mate were joking about that so just think what all the drunks were thinking :p (am scouse - am allowed to make fun :p ))

[ThomasStewart]

-R!G4M0RT!Z']Ok, well, I have mentioned before, that it was about 2-3 years ago that I went to Beltring, so yea, I suppose you are right. I suppose you are right, I might as well not waste my money on a stupid rifle which can do nothing other than dry fire. Oh man, you have totally crushed my spirit of enthusiasm towards anything to do with reenacting. :(
.

Re-enacting isnt simply about guns and explosions, its not meant as a safe and "exciting" substitute to real life war, it provides an educational and theatrical service as well as being immense fun for those involved, there is a whole community of re-enactors and we are everywhere. However, re-enactors are serious about their hobby, they put the time in to learn all there is to know about their portrale and the time period, they are not airsofters - and I'm sorry but this is true, airsofting is nothing like re-enactment, airsofters (and I dont care what anyone says) dont give a fig about the way they dress, what they wear, or how they wear it, simply they don on some gear and go shoot eachother in a safe manner.


.....if you feel put off from re-enacting because I've told you its not about the above, and that it is in-fact a serious hobby full of serious collectors (and those who are just starting out their collection such as David) ....then I'm sorry but re-enacting was never gonna be for you.

[Lordwatson]

I got an airsoft m1a1 tommy gun and a later version ww2 helmet. Its damned heavy, but it saves me from grenades
Saving private ryan sold the Tommy for me. Never knew it sounded THAT cool! :D Its blasted heavy though! :D

Also own a deactivated handgrenade from ww1, found in a field 90 years later. Very good!

[NortherlyNanook]

I think I'm fine with my flintlock pistol... Now THAT is cool to fire at targets. You've got that "poof" and no recoil! You can also just find the shots!

[westy]

Deactivated weapons are NOT toys, they are not airsoft BB guns and they are certainly at a reasonable price for what you are buying. Kids, there are people out there who devote their lives to buying and selling militaria, they go out to Russia, purchase say 100 k98's at £100 each, thats £10,000, they then have to pay "officials" for their export say another £10,000, they then have to ship these 100 k98's and whatever else they will have purchased, £5,000 including transport. They then have to pay people to unload the weapons....then sort them out....then they have to purchase web space to advertise the weapons are for sale....The money all builds up, whilst these people try to keep themselves in business and alive comfortably.
So think before you start spouting off about how "cool" these weapons are but how lowsey the prices are, they arent meant for kids they are meant for serious collectors who are willing and able to pay the correct price for a piece of history. Not so they can go on an internet forum and say "well111!! I 0wn a K98 (replace with whatever weapon) w000t w000t111".

My advice is to save your money, go out, find a girl thatl' do you and wait until you are older.

Unnecissary

Anyway, where in my post did i say it was 'cool' to have one? I too want to start a collection (and as stated before, gotta start somewhere), not parade them around and bieng a student we aren't made of money, i was just asking to see if anyone knew of any cheaper places, gotta shop around for the best deal imo. Thats all i have to say, i dont want to get into disagreements it was merely a comment :)

[ThomasStewart]

Unnecissary
Anyway, where in my post did i say it was 'cool' to have one? I too want to start a collection (and as stated before, gotta start somewhere), not parade them around and bieng a student we aren't made of money, i was just asking to see if anyone knew of any cheaper places, gotta shop around for the best deal imo. Thats all i have to say, i dont want to get into disagreements it was merely a comment FPRIVATE "TYPE=PICT;ALT="

Up until recently I was a student, not made of money at all....I still have an excellent collection of items that Ive strived to pull together.....The "cool" comment was not so much directed at you, as to others. And frankly I feel my comments were necessary, hence why I posted them. Call me a jerk but I'm not turning this forum into a teeny-bopper "I wanna gun and I have a BB M1A1 Thompson cos I'm cool" pit of doom, this thread was designed for people to post up their collection of deactivated/non-deactivated WW2 weapons. NOT to post up their wish-list or toys, I cut people some slack and theyve taken most of the rope. No-sir-ree my grumpy mean cyber-space foot is firmly down, the magority of people on this forum and thread will never own a "real ww2 weapon", and as I said to someone else in a PM:



kids always want to show off, computer games, sports etc etc its all about who's got the latest and best sh*t. Guns however are the sacrid taboo, if you own a real gun you can look down on your BB toy toting mates and laugh at them....My point is, these kids shouldnt be anywhere near a gun, in-fact most kids shouldnt own real guns, deact or not, sure they should be able to see these things, go to events, hold them, feel the weight bla bla bla....but not own one, it comes with responcibilities and there is no need for them to possess such a firearm - even if it appeals to them. However, you do get anomolies, kids who dont want a weapon because its cool, they want a deactivated weapon because its a piece of history that they are interested in and strive to know more about <---- this is the beginning of a collector, someone with the right attitude towards what they are handling. Not some punk kid who plays shoot em up with plastic pellets and wants a gun because he thinks its cool.




Call me harsh, call me sinical, I dont care - so long as you have the right attitude towards weapons, your ok by me. The wrong attitude only gets people jailtime and killed when weapons - deactivated or not, are involved. And I dont want to see any of you banged up or killed - especially the way the UK police are at the moment with regards to firearms.

[Wolfsburg]

I know very little of deactivated guns and Airsoft BB guns (frankly, I am not interested in non-functioning or "fake" firearms) and the rules and regulations regarding them, but to buy a real gun (milsurp or not) in the United States means that you must be 18 to buy a rifle and 21 to buy a handgun and ammo (of any caliber). To buy a gun online you also must have a Federal Firearm License (FFL). Now I don't know what the gun laws are in other areas of the world (which are probably more strict), but I'd advise any minors who want to buy a gun to keep that in mind. As Sani said, guns are not toys (though personally I do enjoy collecting and shooting them) and should not be treated as such. Know what you are doing and what you want before you rush out and buy something just because you want to own a historic firearm.;)

If you are of legal age and want a cheap, WWII firearm to start a collection with, why not a Russian firearm? M38s, M44s, and M91/30s are easily obtainable and are very affordable. If you do buy a (functioning) milsurp, be sure to have them checked out by a competent gunsmith. The old stuff can potentially be dangerous.

[Lordwatson]

Up until recently I was a student, not made of money at all....I still have an excellent collection of items that Ive strived to pull together.....The "cool" comment was not so much directed at you, as to others. And frankly I feel my comments were necessary, hence why I posted them. Call me a jerk but I'm not turning this forum into a teeny-bopper "I wanna gun and I have a BB M1A1 Thompson cos I'm cool" pit of doom, this thread was designed for people to post up their collection of deactivated/non-deactivated WW2 weapons. NOT to post up their wish-list or toys, I cut people some slack and theyve taken most of the rope. No-sir-ree my grumpy mean cyber-space foot is firmly down, the magority of people on this forum and thread will never own a "real ww2 weapon", and as I said to someone else in a PM:

I sincerley hope that wasnt aimed at me.

[ThomasStewart]

If the boot fits....

Now lads, lets get back on topic.

[OliverMarshall]

OK!

Calm down everyone, this thread has a purpose and that is to say who has a firearm and people can discuss firearm's between themselves. Both sides(e.g Sani v the rest;) ) have had their say. If this continues the thread will be locked. Talk about firearms and how you aquired it, why you got it etc. This thread is not about the morals of getting one it is about if you have one. Having said that please do not post airsoft weapons or BB guns cause they are not WW2 weapons 'cause they look like them. Sort this thread out or it will be locked!

Shrapnel

Ok Back to NORMAL thread about WW2 weapons:


i have a german Lt. boot pistol with tigger cocking.


What's a boot pistol?

[Lordwatson]

I read somewhere that a boot pistol was a small pistol that you slipped into your boot (hence the name) if you were captured, or as a last ditch weapon.

[OliverMarshall]

oh right, sounds intresting. Must be tiny to fit in your boot!:eek:

[enigma]

lol looked up Boot Pistol on Google and found this:

http://images.gunsamerica.com/upload/976449754-1.jpg

... very inconspicuous :p

[Lordwatson]

I did the same bbut I couldnt find a defenition. They vary immensly though, froim being very small to being of quite a high calibre
hmm not too sure!

[Volvulus]

I also looked, I think it is just a really, really small gun.

[Wolfsburg]

I don't know of any German pistol specifically called a "boot pistol". Boot pistols usually tend to be simply any gun that can fit in a boot. ;)

In this case, the Mauser Model 10, 14, and 34 series pistols would be a decent candidate, though it could really be anything.

[ThomasStewart]

One 1942 produced mauser K98. :cool:

Will post images if you like later.

[[BEF]-R!G4M0RT!Z]

Oooh, could you post some pictures, please? I never realised how small the Mauser K98k was, I always thought it was about as long as the Enfield, if not longer, but then again it is supposed to be 'kurz'. Also, I always imagined that the rifles would be heavier than they are, although I'm sure they feel heavier carrying all of the necessary bits of uniform, or webbing.

[sid]

Would this be like a boot pistol?
http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/images/Frommer%20Baby/IMG_2668.jpg

[[BEF]-R!G4M0RT!Z]

It looks like it would fit nicely into a boot, and apparently a boot pistol can be anything that fits in a boot, I would presume it is. Is that your weapon?? If so, it looks good :)

[[BEF]-R!G4M0RT!Z]

One 1942 produced mauser K98. :cool:

Will post images if you like later.

Do you think you could, please Sani :)

[ThomasStewart]

Yes - sorry I forgot all about this.

[Swede]

My grandma has my grandpa's Bren MKII

[ThomasStewart]

Ive been very busy these past few weeks, so I managed to grab a few images on my mobile.



http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/548/dsc00024si1.jpghttp://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7830/dsc00022qy4.jpg

[[BEF]-R!G4M0RT!Z]

Cool, do you think, when you are less busy, that you could take some detailed pics, please :)

[V.C. Sniper]

If I were to get my very first gun, IT WOULD DEFINATELY POSITIVELY BE THE M1903A4 Springfield Sniper Rifle!!! And then after that I would get all the other Springfield varients. =D

[harrisonmai]

I want to get an MG42 but that costs like $1,200 and my dad says I have to get all B's first in class. But that's crazy since there is a teacher in the grade who only gives C's!

I would also or either like a sniper rifle, maybe either a British, Russian or German one.

Lol, Id buy any Mg42 that was $1200. If I got lucky, I could still find a class 3 dealer selling one for $45,000.
I have 2 k98's and a G43 though. One of my k98's is a collectors grade with all matching numbers, plus waffen-ampts :D

[ThomasStewart]

Lol, Id buy any Mg42 that was $1200. If I got lucky, I could still find a class 3 dealer selling one for $45,000.
I have 2 k98's and a G43 though. One of my k98's is a collectors grade with all matching numbers, plus waffen-ampts :D

Just like my K98 :cool:

Nice one on the G43, I bet that cost you a pretty penny.

[harrisonmai]

Yup, shes a real beaut. $2500 for the gun (got all matching numbers, great wood, waffen ampts, fires great) and got a kick ass deal on 10 mags for $900!!

[Vanity]

Okay my dad has

M1 carbine.
M1A1carbine (Para-troop)
M1 Grand
Tompson (20&30 mag)
Colt 45.
Mk2 Grenade (Somin like that well a grenade)
Smith&western
Webbly (I think)
Enfield Mk1 (1916 dated and king crown stamped)
Enfield Mk4 (1939 dated (Think its 38))
Bren gun
Sten gun
P17
K98
MG34
MG42
Walther 38.
(Stick grenade:D )
2x mosin nagant
Mosin Nagant carbine
PPSH
(Some russian side arm)

(All of above are orthentic and original. Many of them have the bayonets with them and he has other side weaponery like Hitler youth knife and alike)

And ontop of that
A Replica M16
AK 47

And a few uniforms like two American combat dress (Not sure of the Division)
Part done British Equipment like webbing and alike.

And now hes working on his German Battle uniform. (Not sure what year or pattern)

Thats it i think ill have to see him again and find out if i missed any (And this is all true not a Bluff)

[xplosiv]

I envy you Vanity :D

[Ginger Lord]

Presume he's in the UK seeing as you are, guess a lot of those are deactivated or he has the magical section 5 licence to allow semi-auto blank firiring weapons above .22 calibre.

[harrisonmai]

Unless they are de-activated, just the MG42 and 34 combined is over a $100,000. I find your list hard to beleive personally.

[Saden]

Here in Canada, we have a sort of military show at this building (its just basicly people with military stuff, selling it) and they were selling a bunch of REALLY NICE guns. The ones for sale were de-activated though. They had an MG-34 for I think 1200 CAD. Next time I go I'll take some picture. They had a few British training rifles, this one guy had a box full of Lugers. About 8 I think, I think they were live so they werent for sale but they were awsome. There were lots of de-activated rifles, there was one that looked like a KAR98k but the guy selling it said that it was a different version produced a bit later and it had some small differences. But externally, it looked like a 98k.

[harrisonmai]

There were lots of de-activated rifles, there was one that looked like a KAR98k but the guy selling it said that it was a different version produced a bit later and it had some small differences. But externally, it looked like a 98k.
Probobly an M48. Alot of people buy one thinking its a K98, but its way different, and people who have compared them can tell right away the differences.

[Saden]

I'm not sure. I remember looking at it (The guy had a real K98 next to it) and they looked exteremely simmilar. The sights were a bit different, and the wood was a different colour but thats the only difference I saw. The K98 wasn't de-activated, but it wasn't on sale either.

[[BEF]-R!G4M0RT!Z]

Yea, 'Vanity's father's weapons are all de-ac, I have seen em, its a really nice collection.

[Vanity]

Thanks R!G4M0RT!Z yea course they are all De-ac's n some of then like the MG42, he went to a werehouse (It's licenced to sell weaponary) and this guy has stacks of boxes which all carry weapons needing to be De-ac'd and you choose and pay and the guy puts it top of his list to do, and he works through the rest of the boxes. cost my dad alot but im not sure how much. but his 42 and his K98 are my fav and teh stick grenade :D

and no need to Envy start your own collection:cool:

[Manstein]

Do any of you guys own WW2 firearms? I have a small collection myself:

1940 K98
1939 MN91/30
1942 Carcano M91/41

I also have a 1943 No 4 Mk I and an Arisaka Type 38 on the way.

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1341/pb260001de4.jpg

[Fallschirmjäger]

Saw these recently on the wehrmacht-awards site,a nice set of german firearms by standfast,i like the G43 the most,and a fellow kiwi too.:cool:

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188159

[Wolfsburg]

I didn't really think the G43 was particularly impressive as they aren't rare (though perhaps uncommon) and the stock appears to be sanded, which hurts value considerably.

Conversely, the StG.44 is very nice from the looks of things! He apparently got it for just a fraction of what its worth, which is a little weird. What are gun laws like in NZ? In the U.S., all kinds of fees and paperwork are needed to legally own a firearm capable of fully automatic fire. I was thinking non-demilled full-autos were outright banned in New Zealand. Maybe I'm thinking about Australia?

[Fallschirmjäger]

I dont remember all the laws now,but there are a few diffenet licence's for the lowest i remember that i had for 10 years or so was for shot guns,bolt action and semi auto rifles,there is im shure one for auto weapons?,but would need a good reason etc..and one for collectors of firearms too like WW2 etc.. who would have auto's too,but i haneded mine back in,and never even got around to getting a firearm aswell,to much hassle with the things i needed to do to keep it,money to renew it,referee's etc...
As for the G43 im not big on how it looked etc..,no collector,just thats favourite rifle of german troops in WW2.:cool:

[Wolfsburg]

Oh, I like the G43. It's just that the particular example from the link isn't especially impressive...;)

[Fallschirmjäger]

Yes i dont know all the details of the rifle,but anyone would do me,and on the K43,that one is just a little shorter right,so maybe that woudl be better to have.

[Wolfsburg]

Actually the K43 is identical to the G43. They are the exact same rifle except the designation was changed.

[Fallschirmjäger]

I read this though off a website recently,"and from 1944 there was also a Karabiner 43 version shortened by some 50mm (1.97in).",so yes your right,but they still made a K43 version which was a bit shorter from 1944.

[Wolfsburg]

Interesting. I'm not familiar with that subvarient. I wonder what the likelihood is of running across one of those?

[Fallschirmjäger]

These are some site i found with the info on the G43,also many good pictures of them and other


http://www.gewehr43.com/

http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/weapons-german-ww2/image13.jpg

http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/weapons-german-ww2/image14.jpg

Godd zooming up on those pictures too,from this site overall below with lots of other german and allies etc..info,the website is called digger history or something i think and this is only a few pages of what looks like many many more.

http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-weapons/german-weapons-ww2-2.htm

[ltnoun]

my dad went to war and he had a preta,vale?? (m16) preta dunno (smg)

[USSR_Gorbachev]

Double date stamped MN91/30 (1944/? ?? ) and a Lee Enfield Mk. 5 Jungle Carbine, real, not bubbafied. Looks unissued, in absolute 100% brand new condition.

I have kind of slowed down collecting guns due to a restoration project I am about to engage in.

1964 2 door black hardtop Corvair.

Nader hater.

[felix]

I have access to a great museum.. Let me know what weapons u are looking for and I will talk to them about letting me get some pictures of the weapons in a private session. I can give any US Arty equiptment at the moment.. I will work on arty sound too.. but let me know so I can get those for u.

[Cypher2009]

I go to a pub in the UK on Sunday evenings and the Landlord has a collection. He has:

Bren Mk3;
Lee Enfield + Bayonet;
Thompson;
M1A1 Carbine (Folding stock);
2 grenades (deactivated);
MG32.