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[FFTF]Eurofighter
05-24-2006, 07:11 PM
Ok i was surfing on the web when i found this:
The bat bomb! lol!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_bomb
they were actually planning to use it during ww2!
Bat Bomb: World War II's Other Secret Weapon, by Jack Couffer I gotta read this book lol!
Also other animal weapons can be found here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_animals
project pigeon lol
one day the bats and the pigeons will take over the world! :D
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/Dog_with_mask_WWI.jpg

Lordwatson
05-24-2006, 07:13 PM
Thats pretty evil on the part of the people that trained them, tha animals are just following instinct. I read in a kid's book the Russians attatched C4 to dogs and trained them to run at the tank's and would detonate them underneath :D

DavidUpton
05-24-2006, 07:45 PM
I read that too, except it was AT mines and not C4. Also, it went a bit wrong. They trained the dogs with Russian tanks, so when they were deployed in the battlefield they blew up their own tanks. :p

DaveP
05-24-2006, 07:48 PM
Aye, David's is right. The problem was that they trained the russian dogs to go under the T34's, which were powered by Diesel engines. In battle, the russian dogs, rather than going for the petrol powered german Tiger tanks, instead remembered the Diesel, and went for the T34's. And aye, I think it was an AT mine.

krAzu
05-24-2006, 08:04 PM
At the beginning of the War in Iraq, The Government of Congo proposed the idea of trained monkeys to clear minefields by running across them.
:cool:

Lordwatson
05-24-2006, 08:12 PM
*pictures thousands of monkeys running across a battlefield perioidcally being blown into the air*
AWESOME!

aag567
05-24-2006, 08:38 PM
The dogs blew up their own tanks? That's rather ironic.

DavidUpton
05-24-2006, 08:58 PM
A mans best friend... Unless your Russian.

Vash
05-24-2006, 11:27 PM
Ahh the beauty of soviet intelligence

Hamilkar
05-25-2006, 12:33 AM
AYYYYY NYET!!!!! mashinista KAPuuuuT!!!!!!1111111 :D

My russian is clear as a diamond isnt it ??????





NO? GO #&$@*%@^ URSELF!!!!!


:D

-=OTR=-Steve-o
05-25-2006, 12:33 AM
wow thats some crazy stuff :D

DarkCanuck
05-25-2006, 01:36 AM
na na na na na BATBOMB! na na na na na na na na BatBomb!

Lord Justin
05-25-2006, 02:05 AM
Actually, I believe incendiary bats were used once...or maybe it was incendiary something else. Or maybe I'm just thinking of those Russian dogs :p. If they had trained enough of them with petrol gas and German tank silhouette cut-outs, they might have done some damage...imagine if the allies had had those dogs in Normandy and specifically trained them against Tigers...I believe there were only something like 90 tigers in all of normandy when the allies landed. A hundred dogs and a hundred mines would have been a small price to pay rather than hundreds of Shermans and their crews :p

Sgt So and So
05-25-2006, 02:53 AM
I think the military still wants the damned animals... look, the SEALs have trained dolphins to look for mines! SQUEEEK SQUAAEEEK ka-BOOM! lol poor dolphins:D

Hamilkar
05-25-2006, 04:06 AM
Undeniable evidence of the US military's EA training.

PaWNzerSquirle
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a393/MagnosAchos/LOL/ROFL.jpg

EESK aka Elite & Evil Snipah Kittens
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a393/MagnosAchos/LOL/ROLFIO.jpg

aag567
05-25-2006, 07:36 AM
Haha, I saw those pictures from the militaryhumor site, it made me laugh.

xtc-alec
05-25-2006, 01:25 PM
In my reenacting group, we have a russian dog that we trained to run into the turrents of tanks. Only use him for public events, fricken rocks!

metsapeikko
05-25-2006, 11:55 PM
Aye, David's is right. The problem was that they trained the russian dogs to go under the T34's, which were powered by Diesel engines. In battle, the russian dogs, rather than going for the petrol powered german Tiger tanks, instead remembered the Diesel, and went for the T34's. And aye, I think it was an AT mine.

Well thats quite ironic, just wondering what the hell was dog trainers thinking when they decidet to start training dogs whit t-34:s...

Paul Myatt
05-26-2006, 12:03 AM
the idea was there, and it probly seemed like a good idea at the time, but the first friendly tank it went after would have been a bit awkward :P

DaveP
05-26-2006, 12:08 AM
Well thats quite ironic, just wondering what the hell was dog trainers thinking when they decidet to start training dogs whit t-34:s...


Well, I think it's easy to presume that to a dog, any big block making smoke and noise is a big block making smoke and noise, regardless of engine/shape/size :rolleyes:

[FFTF]Eurofighter
05-26-2006, 12:49 AM
strange replies on my strange thread lol :D
stop talkin bout the dogs bat bombs are waaaaaaaaaay cooler!
and pigeon missles lol!

Hamilkar
05-26-2006, 03:03 AM
Well thats quite ironic, just wondering what the hell was dog trainers thinking when they decidet to start training dogs whit t-34:s...

Oh lol i gotta tell my Grandfathers story......

ITS TRUE!

My Gfather was in a POW camp in Russia.
He was in some sort of bathroom and he saw a Russian soldier clean a fish in the TOILET! Yes he (too) tought it wass odd but he proceded to do his business.
Somehow the toilet flushed accidentaly and the fish was flushed as well.
He unslinged his PPSH and fa**en shot the toiled "dead".
than he yelled in russian, YOu god damned thief.

I would have not believed the story, but I heard it from my Granfather himself and he NEVER! ever telled bogus stuff about WW2.

Nontheless I was amuzed by the story.

Volvulus
05-27-2006, 11:33 PM
The bat bomb was on the history channel, the werid weapons in WWII and was tested on a mini town and it worked. But the military pulled the project for some reason.

xtc-alec
05-28-2006, 02:32 AM
Because when bats leave the cave they allways turn left, and the target was on the right side? :p

[FFTF]Eurofighter
05-28-2006, 06:30 PM
no it was because they released them accidently once and put the factory on fire lol! :D

krAzu
05-28-2006, 07:13 PM
The bat bomb was on the history channel, the werid weapons in WWII and was tested on a mini town and it worked. But the military pulled the project for some reason.
It got too expensive, so they preferred using the atomic bomb and actually did it, as we all know.

[Txn]hockey
06-07-2006, 10:02 PM
yeah i remember seeing that on the history channel. The group accidentally let some bats loose and the factory caught on fire. The research group was happy - it worked! but the military was pissed they lost a building. the plan on dropping the bats was ingenious: induce the bats into hibernation (lower the temperature) then drop them. but how to drop? they took a bomb shell and created grids to place the bats in and a board to catch the bats so they could wake up. The plan was the bats would hide under the houses and set that paper on fire....then the A bomb ownd em up.

Sgt So and So
06-07-2006, 10:54 PM
hockey, DONT BUMP THREADS. I think this is your second warning now.

[Txn]hockey
06-07-2006, 11:07 PM
huh? I just signed up today??? bumping???

OliverMarshall
06-08-2006, 06:54 AM
Animals At War

1.Elephants: The Carthaginians first used them against Rome at the siege of Agrigentum in 262BC, but the Romans famously learned to open ranks and simpley let the beasts through. At the Battle of Panoramus in 251BC, they were madden ed with arrows into stampeding among their own lines, while at Zama in 202BC they were scared away by Trumpets. Elephants were also used extensivly in India and in tenth-century China, where they were eventually abandoned as being too vulnerable to massed Archery. At the siege of the Qusu in China in AD 446 the attackers made bamboo lions which frightened the city's elephants into trapmpling their fellow defenders.

2.Dogs: Red Army soldiers strapped bombs to dogs to destroy german tanks in WW2. However, the animals identified their own armies vehicls with food and caused serveral Russian formations to retreat.

3.Bats: During WW2, the USA's 'Project X-Ray' involved strapping miniature napalm charges to thousands of bats and releasing them over Japan. The plan was abandoned after the bats escaped and destroyed an aircraft hangar and a general's car in New Mexico.

4.Camels: Afgan Mujahidin used kamikaze camels loaded with explosives against the SOviet occupation forces between 1979 and 1989. Camels were used as mobile water tankers during the march of Khalid b. al-Walid's army from Iraq to Syria in 634. First they were forced to drink thei fill before their mouths weer bound up to prevent tem chewing their cud. They were the slaughtered as needed and the water drunk straight from their bellies.

5.Rats: The British SOE used dummy rats packed with explosive to disable German munitions factories suring WW2.

6.Dolphins: Both the Russian and US navies ahve trained dolphins to locate mines.

7.Sea Lions: Used by the US Navy in the Persian Gulf to keep a lookout for enemy frogmen durin gthe Iraq War of 2003.

8.Ticks: The US Army attempted to use bloodsucking insects to detect hidden enemy troops, but their behaviour proved too difficult to interpret.

9.Pigeons:The Americans trained these birds to ride in the noses of missiles to guid them towards ships, though they have never been used in combat.

10.Monkeys: In the Arthashashtra (Treatise on Siegecraft), the foruth-century BC Bragman Chief Minister Kautilya writes of burning out the defenders of strongholds by using trained monkeys to carry incendiary devices over the fortifications.

11.Oxen: At the siege of Kimo in 279BC, the defending commander of Tian Dan of Qi sent out a hundered oxen dressed in silk costumes to make them look like dragons with burning straw tied to their tails. The attackers fled.

12.Parrots: During WW1, trained parrots were perched on the Eiffel Tower, from where they could give 20 minutes warning of incoming aircraft. The practise was abandoned when it was discovered that the birds could not discriminate German and Alllied planes.

[FFTF]Eurofighter
06-08-2006, 10:48 PM
dude! you forgot the horse! :eek:
and the cow, the eagle or sheep like in odysee :D

NicholasJohnson
06-10-2006, 08:24 AM
Eurofighter']dude! you forgot the horse!

Good point.

You have a list of animals in war, and the HORSE is forgotten! That is like leaving out the tank. :p

rAstha
06-10-2006, 04:37 PM
Animals At War

12.Parrots: During WW1, trained parrots were perched on the Eiffel Tower, from where they could give 20 minutes warning of incoming aircraft. The practise was abandoned when it was discovered that the birds could not discriminate German and Alllied planes.

Thats where they got the radar idea!

cpt.miller
06-14-2006, 02:00 PM
My father told what his father told him about anti-tank dogs.
My grandfather was recruited in german 15th ss infantry division. In Latvia there were german and soviet forces. Both had latvians there. In nighttime they were brothering (playing cards, talking with opposite force men) and told about their duties under soviet and german flag. And one who fought for soviets told that they are training AT dogs. They were left in hunger for several days. then soviets attached food below the tank.
But in battlefield was problem that they were trained on soviet t-34 tanks and usually attacked their own tanks because the dogs recognised smell of diesel.
The explosives were detonated with wood stick, when it touched tank' s body, detonated the explosives. they were removed from duty in 1942

here is picture : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/lv/9/97/Prettanku_suns.jpg