Starwars Galaxies VS 1944

[SpikePD]

If anyone does doubt the games potenial which some might. If you've ever played SWG then you'll notice planets are HUGE and it would take forever to walk from one city around the world and back to it. And the graphics are still great!

This is just for those people who are asking how this is possible. SWG is huge HUGE and its still very interactive. Look for some screenshots of it. Space is even bigger and its populated with stations planets etc.

[75thDeadMan]

not that im doubting the power of 1944, but the reason SWG runs so good is cause it's an mmo, which means it's on a huge, uber expensive server, and thus why you have to pay for the game monthly.

[Sgt So and So]

And, for the love of Jehova, 1944 IS NOT AN MMO!

[Volvulus]

word.

[2ltben]

SWG is pure crap when it comes to gameplay, especially after Lucasarts destroyed what was left of the gameplay. And Spike, if you want a large MMO, play EVE. It makes SWG bow its head in shame.

[NortherlyNanook]

Not really. The best part of SWG was that it was in the Star Wars universe, but Eve doesn't really have that. NO WOOKIEES!!!

Though after trying out SWG, yeah, the combat was rather... poor. Enemies could shoot through walls if you ran away.

[Lord Justin]

SWG is pure crap when it comes to gameplay, especially after Lucasarts destroyed what was left of the gameplay. And Spike, if you want a large MMO, play EVE. It makes SWG bow its head in shame.


Before the Combat Upgrade (read: Downgrade) it was my favorite game of all time. Then they had to go fook it up by making it more like other MMOs. We SWG fanboys liked the old SWG.

But yes, as Spike says, the planets are indeed huge. Fifteen square game kilometers. Sometimes I used to just hop on ym swoop bike and zoom around a planet enjoying the scenery :D . On some maps it could take a good hour to swoop from one corner to the opposite :rolleyes:

Having experienced the size of those maps, and thinking that the 1944 map is ten times the size...it's incomprehensible. I guess I'll just have to get meself a Mustang and fly from one corner to the other, just to see how large the map is :D

[DaveHill]

But yes, as Spike says, the planets are indeed huge. Fifteen square game kilometers.

...

Having experienced the size of those maps, and thinking that the 1944 map is ten times the size...it's incomprehensible.

SWG - 15 sq/km
1944 - 25,600 sq/km

... I think it's closer to 1000 times bigger :p

[ApeX]

SWG - 15 sq/km
1944 - 25,600 sq/km

... I think it's closer to 1000 times bigger :p

*drools in awe*

That's what I like to hear ;)

[FartCop]

1,706.667 times larger. Give or take 1/1000.

[A.I.]

1944 - 25,600 sq/km


Just the size of my country - it would be very cool to do a mod. We had some pretty interesting wars down here...

[[BEF]-R!G4M0RT!Z]

And what country is that?? :D

[Rapishorrid]

f you want a large MMO, play EVE. It makes SWG bow its head in shame.

Yeah EVE is massive. If you took your ship at normal speeds (there is warping and stargates to speed things up) it would probably take you over a month to get to one side of the universe from the opposite. :D Well this is just my estimate...but it is that huge!

[Hells Angel]

I've been in eve for the last two and a half years and yes Rapis, it has been estimated to take over a month to fully traverse the universe :D

Oh SWG has gone waaaayyyy down hill ;)

[2ltben]

Yeah EVE is massive. If you took your ship at normal speeds (there is warping and stargates to speed things up) it would probably take you over a month to get to one side of the universe from the opposite. :D Well this is just my estimate...but it is that huge!
Some newb didn't know how to warp once. Took him three hours to get from a station to a gate.

[Lord Justin]

SWG - 15 sq/km
1944 - 25,600 sq/km

Wow...I shame myself on my ability to do measuremenst in my head :p . The SWG maps are not 15 square kilometers. They are 15x15 kilometers (although I'm pretty sure only some are this size, others being quite smaller). Thus (if my brain does not fail me again :p ), the 1944 map is indeed tens times the size, no?

I feel so dumb :p . I usually have no problem with measurements.

[Hells Angel]

Exactly 15x15 = 15 sq/km

[SpikePD]

I didn't say it was a MMO idiot, i was explaining how its a large playable area and how things load when you come to the area. I'm not interested in Role Playing shit.

I like the fact of 1944 and i was trying to get across that its not impossible to have a large play area. By things loading when your in the area, not just everything there.

*Easy there killer. -2ltben*

[Lord Justin]

Exactly 15x15 = 15 sq/km

Is this sarcasm or something :p ? That's what made me stop and think. 15x15 km is 225 sq. km. Now, 15 sq. km is 3.8729 km in length and width. So 15 sq. km is not one tenth of 150x150 km. However, 15x15 km is indeed one tenth of 150x150 km :) .

And I should have figured that out instantly, but it took me some time :p

[NortherlyNanook]

Yeah, since there was even that discussion on how the 160x160 km wasn't 160 sq. km, which kinda shocked some people when they saw that it was actually 25,600 sq. km.

Still, Galaxies is rendered a midget.


I didn't say it was a MMO idiot, i was explaining how its a large playable area and how things load when you come to the area. I'm not interested in Role Playing shit.

It's okay. He flames everyone.

[Zavaro]

Yes. But we'll see soon how Galaxies reacts on a simple home computer, when the SWGEmu comes out and 1944 released.

http://swgemu.com

Then we'll really be able to compare them.

[NortherlyNanook]

After going to that site, I still don't understand what the heck SWGEMU is.

[2ltben]

Its a server emulator. You can play off of your own SWG servers instead of the SOE ones.

[DavidUpton]

You have to bear in mind that while SWG is an MMO, 1944 is not in any shape or form an MMO. Why? Because for the most part it is dominated by AI, both friendly and unfriendly. Sure, you will be able to have a lot of players online in a game, but the player to AI ratio will be very, very high. Because of this, 1944 is more of an MC; Massive Co-op.

[Sgt So and So]

It's okay. He flames everyone.
:D 'Tis true. ^^^ Thanks, David!

[DavidUpton]

Erm, no problem? :confused: :)

[SgtH3nry3]

150x150 km :) .160x160km. ;)

[SpikePD]

Holy shatz0rz! i started this thread a while ago and its still open =D I've learned more since then :P And i never said it was an MMO people read! I was comparing the largeness of the play area of planets/space. I only played it for a short while it got boring after i realized how long i'd have to play to get a decent anything!

Oh, i just realized its not good that its still open lol.

[Saden]

A few things, Star Wars Galaxies cannot be compared to any game at all, 1944 cannot be compared to any other game except maybe a 1944 expansion. I've been with SWG since beta 1 (the closed beta) and the game is AMAZING back then, but now SOE screwed it up, not Lucas Arts, get your facts straight. Lucas Arts only owns 40% of the game, and they hate the new update. That's why there is a team making an Emulation of the game, and there are a bunch of other teams using the EMU to make servers. I'm currently part of the New Eclipse server (second biggest) So before you guys complain and make any assumptions about the game, think about it. I know more about the game than any of you, unless you are a DEV or maybe a CSR which I HIGHLY doubt you are. But yes, the SWG planets were massive, and the level of detail put into them, but that cannot be compare with 1944 because they are two different genre's, two different types of games, and there are MANY different factors. ALSO, the thing about EVE online is that it has beutiful space, but it looks allot like a sort of backdrop, it really looks painted on. I got the trail, but the fact that you had to warp and go through the gates to get to one place took 15 mins, and when you get there you shoot one robot pirate and have to return. I'm not saying this is for the whole game, but for the first while, its like that. SWG's space is also massive, but its not a space oriented game so its not as big. I think it looks nicer though because you can actually fly through the asteroid fields, go through nebulas, and you could controll the space fighting. It was a sort of space flight sim, EVE is more of a corporate/buisness game. You need to join a good corporation to do really anything, and then you sort of compete with the other corporations. Again a very different game, but if you were smart in SWG you could too have a corporation/buisness/company. I actually owned one of the biggest Corporations on Kauri (SWG server) We had smugglers getting spices from dealers on other planets, competing with Rebel smugglers ect. It was great fun.

[Gien]

SWG was RUINED by the utterly crap CU(Combat Upgrade) Before that it was actually fun to play, hopefully one team finishes the emulator thats being worked on...

[Saden]

There is only one team working on the actualy emulator, there are other servers who are watiting for the EMU to be finished.

[Gien]

Yeah i heard one team gave up i was unsure how many were actually working on it though. I stopped paying attention to it though, just check up every now and then to see if its done.

[Zavaro]

There is only one team working on the actualy emulator, there are other servers who are watiting for the EMU to be finished.

Actually, I've been playing the Emu for about a month. I must say it's..

A) Less Laggy
but..
B) Not competely finished.

It's fun. They've almost got all the skills done, surprisingly. Now all they need is to finalize combat integration. When it's released in it's finished form, I'll probably play both 1944 and SWG (again).

It's all Pre-CU/Pre-NGE which is no doubt what people want.

[Gien]

WOW a team actually FINISHED the emulator? Mind PMing me a link or something to where you found it?

[2ltben]

Just because its an older version doesn't mean it won't suck.

[Gien]

Older meaning pre cu? Hah Pre CU was the greatest part of the game.

[Zavaro]

Yes. Pre-CU. So it won't suck.

[mes]

1944 > SWG
Muhahaha.

[Saden]

Actually no it doesn't.