Star Wars?

[Sgt So and So]

I've mentioned this in the Off-Topic before the update, but wouldn't it be cool to do a Star Wars mod? Just think- we could have a Old Trilogy Endor battle, where you can fight in space, on Endor, or in the Death Star II!

Or, perhaps, the invasion of Geonosis from Episode II or the Battle of Kashyyk from III? I'm terrible with mods, so I would never be able to do it, but if other people have the time, I think it would turn out to be amazing.

[OliverMarshall]

Maybe after Iraq ;)

[Arturo]

This would be awesome... Realistic and Iron sights I would love this to be a clone

[BillSpargo]

I've mentioned this in the Off-Topic before the update, but wouldn't it be cool to do a Star Wars mod? Just think- we could have a Old Trilogy Endor battle, where you can fight in space, on Endor, or in the Death Star II!

Or, perhaps, the invasion of Geonosis from Episode II or the Battle of Kashyyk from III? I'm terrible with mods, so I would never be able to do it, but if other people have the time, I think it would turn out to be amazing.

Coruscant modelled would be great. It's only one city—covering an entire planet!!!

[NortherlyNanook]

It like the sound of the Endor idea, but lots of can gravity be killed with the Reality engine for space?

It would probably end up being very intense, since the combat in the Star Wars movies was pretty hectic.

[Saden]

That would be a HUGE mod, and would take allot of time. But if a team is actually going to be working on something like this, I can do concept art and skin. I'm currently learning to model with 3DS Max 7.

[Thanato]

I'm sticking with the first mod for 1944, Ivory-Gate :D :D :D (its sci-fi so dont worry lol)

~Thanato

[Sgt So and So]

I'm sticking with the first mod for 1944, Ivory-Gate :D :D :D (its sci-fi so dont worry lol)

~Thanato
Bu... bu... bu... t3h w00ki3s!:D

[Thanato]

Bu... bu... bu... t3h w00ki3s!:D

Who needs wookies when you got thousands of soldiers vs thousands of giant lizard like killing machines

~Thanato

[NortherlyNanook]

Who needs wookies when you got thousands of soldiers vs thousands of giant lizard like killing machines

~Thanato

I do. Wookiees are fuzzy.

[Dutchlike]

I do. Wookiees are fuzzy.
Word! :D

[Sgt So and So]

You could rip stormtroopers' arms off!:D

[Dutchlike]

You could rip stormtroopers' arms off!:D
Now we're getting too violent...shooting cute fuzzy creatures is violent enough :D

[exedeath]

Why don't make a "realistic" (based on the movies), game with all weapons doing the same damage, all spaceships do the same damage and etc...

But you would need fans of star wars, to be like the research guys.

[Dutchlike]

I saw all movies...and 4 to 6 (i think :P ) twice.

[-X-Sublime]

Ya I want teh w00k!ez to like run into the battle like a beserker and rip some helmeted heads and put them up some armored asses

[Sgt So and So]

Why don't make a "realistic" (based on the movies), game with all weapons doing the same damage, all spaceships do the same damage and etc...

But you would need fans of star wars, to be like the research guys.
Research guy #1, reporting for duty!:D

[colonal chaos]

I love this idea!

i mean in what game would be funner then being a super strong fuzz-ball

and ill be another research guy
i can also map

[Jontasa]

heh looks like the SW mod team is already building up:)

[NortherlyNanook]

I'm a huge Star Wars fan, and I'd volunteer my time, but I can't do anything.

Now, what would be impressive is if you could persuade the First Strike team, which is making a Star Wars mod for BF2142 (they switched from BF2), to use this engine to mod from.

[Arturo]

There is also a Source engine Start wars mod

[biggles]

Like to have a mod with the clonetroopers and the only thing they can say: "yes Sir! Right away Sir!" (Star Wars rules!!!!!!!!:D )

[Sgt So and So]

Like to have a mod with the clonetroopers and the only thing they can say: "yes Sir! Right away Sir!" (Star Wars rules!!!!!!!!:D )
To anyone envisioning this mod, I say buy Battlefront 2. It's where I'm getting most of my ideas, and if we could implement them into the mod in a less arcadish way, I think it would be incredibly well-received!:D Plus, Jedi, anyone?

[2ltben]

It like the sound of the Endor idea, but lots of can gravity be killed with the Reality engine for space?
Not exactly sure what you mean, but gravity and all other natural laws are portrayed in a very unrealistic and abstract manner throughout the entire six movie series.

[colonal chaos]

To anyone envisioning this mod, I say buy Battlefront 2. It's where I'm getting most of my ideas, and if we could implement them into the mod in a less arcadish way, I think it would be incredibly well-received!:D Plus, Jedi, anyone?

we would have to make it way less arcadey... cause i do not remember seeing rocket launchers in starwars

[Lord Justin]

Why don't make a "realistic" (based on the movies), game with all weapons doing the same damage, all spaceships do the same damage and etc...

But you would need fans of star wars, to be like the research guys.

Heh, I'll be a great researcher. I've been studying Star Wars all my life, I know vastly more about it than anyone I know. I've seen every movie dozens (hundreds perhaps) of times and read several books. Not to mention played pretty much every game there is. To say the least, the Star Wars trilogy is my Bible. With George Lucas being God, of course :p .


To anyone envisioning this mod, I say buy Battlefront 2. It's where I'm getting most of my ideas, and if we could implement them into the mod in a less arcadish way, I think it would be incredibly well-received! Plus, Jedi, anyone?

I think Battlefront 2 was very unrealistic and small-detailed in terms of Star Wars realism. The closest and most detailed portrayal I've seen has been Star Wars Galaxies, although many details were dumbed down in exchange for the game's scale and ease-of-use.

Also, as has been said, Jedi were executed horribly in BFront2. Now, seeing Jedi powers being performed with realistic physics...:rolleyes: would be a dream come true for a fan of my caliber :p .

I'd love to see this mod, and it sounds like a lot of people are interested. Need any expert opinions, I'm right here. :p

[2ltben]

In no way, shape, or form does Star Wars create verisimilitude.

If you have realistic Newtonian physics in a Star Wars game, you'd have a galactic genocide on your hands since the starships would either be lost, crash into something, or blow up from the incredible amounts of energy an FTL drive creates.

[Sgt So and So]

In no way, shape, or form does Star Wars create verisimilitude.

If you have realistic Newtonian physics in a Star Wars game, you'd have a galactic genocide on your hands since the starships would either be lost, crash into something, or blow up from the incredible amounts of energy an FTL drive creates.
Verisimilitude? My head hurts.:D And who said we'd have to use Newtonian physics? Maybe we should just stick to ground battles... But seriously, I said in my post that if we made it less arcade-y and more realistic (I'm just getting rough ideas from Battlefront 2, locales, concept art, etc etc) then it would be amazing. Also, watch the Clone Wars cartoons, especially Episode 3 of Season 2.

Clone commander standing on top of barricade in Coruscant.
"We are being overrun! I repeat, we are being-" *whips out rifle, starts shooting into wave after wave of battle droid, runs out of ammo, picks up other rifle, takes out pistol, keeps shooting.
"Fall back! FALL BACK!"
Yoda comes from behind on his mount.
"Hold your positions!"
Starts hacking down droids.:D

[Lord Justin]

In no way, shape, or form does Star Wars create verisimilitude.

If you have realistic Newtonian physics in a Star Wars game, you'd have a galactic genocide on your hands since the starships would either be lost, crash into something, or blow up from the incredible amounts of energy an FTL drive creates.

No one said we had to use real-life physics. Of course Star Wars isn't faithful to physics...people strangle each other with their minds :p . And no, with real physics, the starships wouldn't be able to operate at all. But, it would be pretty easy to simulate the changes needed to make the starships work. Perhaps apply certain physical rules to the ships, to allow them to maneuver, and then apply normal zero-gravity rules to debris and projectiles and such to let them go realistically. And for the sake of artistic license, don't make the space battles silent :p .

And the ground battles would be easy. So we have to look at Star Wars as what it is, a fictional story. Lucas didn't set out to create a realistic environment, he set out to create an entertaining one. So the modders would have to take some liberties. It would come out as a great game.

[Bunglo]

Well, I was never a big fan or even a fan of starwars. Sure, they put out some good movies, but that's all it is to me, another movie. I'm sure it probably would be fun to play but I'm not too big on the whole idea. Now Ivory Gate, that's ganna be a good mod:D

[Saden]

There is already a Star Wars mod for OFP: Armoured Assault. Its looking great, its called GAW (I remember what it stands for) just search 'gaw' on youtube and youll get hits. It looks really nice. Btw, if this mod does start up, I was wondering if I could help out with it? I could be a developer, skinning/modelling and doing concept art for it.

[Sgt So and So]

Well, I was never a big fan or even a fan of starwars. Sure, they put out some good movies, but that's all it is to me, another movie. I'm sure it probably would be fun to play but I'm not too big on the whole idea. Now Ivory Gate, that's ganna be a good mod:D
Just watch the cartoons! :D

[Saden]

Rofl, the clone wars cartoons were kind of weird. It was way to cartoonish and probably aimed at the younger crowd. I always wanted to see Star Wars in a sort of serious way (ie. The fighting being more realistic, you would see more of the aftermath of the battle, like seeing dead bodies, blood, destroyed stuff ect. But Star Wars still remains my favorite movie of all time, and will forever. I was about three years old when I watched it. I still remember that.)

[Sgt So and So]

Alright, fine, watch Episode 3 of Season 2! The middle part.

[Sgt So and So]

Back from the dead!

Here's what I'm talking about. Somebody put this up on the web, and it kicks ass. This is a direct clip from the episode. http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/SgtSoandSo/fordokickingbutt8tp.gif
Imagine that in 1944.:cool:

[Lord Justin]

Back from the dead!

Here's what I'm talking about. Somebody put this up on the web, and it kicks ass. This is a direct clip from the episode. http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/SgtSoandSo/fordokickingbutt8tp.gif
Imagine that in 1944.:cool:

My eyes thank you. They want to marry you, although I told them it was a bad idea.

And yea, that would be infinitely cool in a mod. Little bits of the droids bouncing around and smoking while you blast away, getting burns all over your visor and getting more and more exhausted and taking hits :rolleyes:.

A fanboy's dream come true. No, not the dream about Leia, the other one.

[Lordwatson]

Looks like good fun! There hasnt really been any girtty star wars game, cept that one, was it Republic commando? was quite good like that.

[Saden]

I think it should be as gritty as 1944. I got tired seeing explosions and the Clone Troopers come out in one peice. And the fact that when everyone got cut by a lightsaber there was no blood.

[Sgt So and So]

Well, the fact that lightsabers sear the wound before it has the chance to bleed is the reason that there's no blood. They're like a friggin' frying pan. With a hilt.:D

[Lordwatson]

Quite right. Lasers are used in modern medicine to heal seal wounds. As it cuts through, it congeals the wound as it passes. Good old Standard Grade physics!

[Infinite XÆr0]

Well, the fact that lightsabers sear the wound before it has the chance to bleed is the reason that there's no blood. They're like a friggin' frying pan. With a hilt.:D

that may be so for cutting off hands, and or arms, but some how i have a feeling that you'ld still have blood gushing out if you cut someone's leg off at the thigh, ok decapitated them, or cleaved them in half at the chest.

[Sgt So and So]

that may be so for cutting off hands, and or arms, but some how i have a feeling that you'ld still have blood gushing out if you cut someone's leg off at the thigh, ok decapitated them, or cleaved them in half at the chest.
Well, according to most tests, there usually is a puff of blood before it is seared into the skin if there is a huge amount of it coming out. I.E. Darth Maul's death, wherein there is a red cloud that appears in front of him before he hits rock bottom. Lucas did his research.

[Saden]

Then home come there was that small pool of blood around the arm in A New Hope when Obi-Wan cut that thugs arm off? There was a little blood on it, and on the floor. I think the main reason they didn't do it in the rest of the movies (ep. 1-3) is because they wanted smaller children watching too, and they did allot of stuff with CGI, and when you add blood in CGI it looks real and gory, so it would be too gory for little kids like that. But that shouldn't be an excuse for this mod because the base game is meant for more mature people.

[exedeath]

when i said realism, i was talking to stay true to the movies, and not the your world.

[Saden]

Who are you talking to exedeath?

[Infinite XÆr0]

when i said realism, i was talking to stay true to the movies, and not the your world.

most of how anything is supposed to work tech wise isn't defined in the movies anyway

[Saden]

So, what do you guys think about the blood in A New Hope?

[Infinite XÆr0]

So, what do you guys think about the blood in A New Hope?

well, if it happened in the movies its official starwars canon, thus lightsabres can make you bleed

i mean, it just doesnt seem possible that no matter how you dismember somebody with a lightsaber, they wont bleed. At the very least, blood should start pooling from very severe wounds such as dismemberment the chest cavity, or the abdominal region <--- should also include gut spilling action

[Saden]

And if you read the books they are very gory aswell. The scene where Leia shoots the first ST looking for her in the head, was written gorily (lol?) in the book. It went something like "The bolt to the head sent peices of flesh, blood and brains of the Storm Trooper everwhere."

[Lt.Buck]

lol fellas its star wars its make believe jesus if they say a light saber doesnt make them bleed then it doesnt make them bleed
no reel reason 2 it except they said it aint gonna happen, there world there rules

[Infinite XÆr0]

lol fellas its star wars its make believe jesus if they say a light saber doesnt make them bleed then it doesnt make them bleed
no reel reason 2 it except they said it aint gonna happen, there world there rules

just because its sci-fi/fantacy it doesnt mean that it cant follow real world logic, sure it doesnt really matter how any of the tech works, but some effects can be simulated/replicated using technology that already exists, for example, to simulate a lightsaber wound, just imagine what would happen if you use a super heated steel, or titanium blade to cut someone to pieces. The blade would instantly cauterize dismemberment wounds to arms and legs, and possibly to the head, but i highly doubt that it would cauterize the aorta if it was severed

like i said before, as far as it goes with star wars, if its seen in the movies, then it happens, so if you have one scene where a light saber causes bleeding then it is possible for a light saber to cause a bleeding wound... (thre are infact two scenes where a lightsaber causes bleeding in the OT)

Also, keep in mind that if the movies had realistic gore from various weapons, such as light sabers, blasters, or other various explosives, then all the movies would have been R rated, partially defeating their purpose, since lucas wanted to gear these movies towards children... (ya, dont even try to use episode 3 as an example to try to defeat this point... that movie was rated pg-13, and as far as I see 13 yearolds are still children :rolleyes: )

[Saden]

13 year olds are teenagers rofl, not children. But yeah, I'm hoping that this mod will be M or R rated because its based off a game that will be R or M rated.

[Infinite XÆr0]

ok, well, it seems that we all want this mod to be gritty and violent, thats a given.

second, we all know that 1944 is gonna have very strong simulation/FPS components to it, making the FPS elements of this starwars mod relatively ez to establish

lastly, in my opinion, the most important/ hardest to implement would be saber combat. I dont know how many of you guys have played any starwars titles, like jedioutcast/academy, or the episode III game, but those are pretty good references for how saber combat should be implemented ingame. THe only problem is that none of those game have found a good compromise between complex combo moves, and precice saber control. So... any1 have any good ideas relating as to how they want saber combat in this hypothetical starwars mod?

[Saden]

I think the game should be based on the actual Soldiers themselves. Because I think that we should make the mod in the time period of ANH - ROTJ. It would be better, and how many Jedi did you see running amongst the men in that time period? None.

[exedeath]

make like 1944, there are some jedi on the map with a high rank you can control them, the ai playing with the jedi should play veeeeeeeeery well and the jedi have to have all the powers that a jedi has. (the jedi need to play very well beause there ate few jedi on battles and if the jedi is killed to faster, the jedi will be killed before the players archieved the right rank to play as them, and this will be a very bad thing).
how the lightsaber moves should be done???
Ask to a starwars fan.

[Saden]

But adding in the Jedi would not go with the Star Wars canon at all. And if you added like Luke to the Rebel side, atleast lets try not make him invincible like the Jedi in Battlefront. SGT So an So, lets start a Star Wars mod team then. I'll make a thread.

[exedeath]

But adding in the Jedi would not go with the Star Wars canon at all.

ok so no jedi.

[[EID]Sharp]

I'm a huge Star Wars fan, and I'd volunteer my time, but I can't do anything.

Now, what would be impressive is if you could persuade the First Strike team, which is making a Star Wars mod for BF2142 (they switched from BF2), to use this engine to mod from.

Troopers: Dawn of Destiny (http://www.ut2004troopers.com/) are much further along in their development (albeit for UT2004), check out their latest Map list (http://kinetic.madnad.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=611).

[Saden]

That looks very nice. The only things that bugs me about it is the models, theyre not as detailed as the standard UT2K3 or 2K4 models.

[OliverMarshall]

Looks good, I like the idea. If you want a Coordinator and researcher then I would be happy to help. I'm working on OIF aswell for the same jobs.

[Saden]

We don't really need researchers for Star Wars. Unless you've never watched the movie, or was never interested in knowing about things in star wars, or reading the various prequel and sequel books.

[OliverMarshall]

Every mod needs researchers, that was a silly thing to say.;)

If you can tell me what an At-AT's foot looks like off the top of your head then i'll agree. But every little detail counts when you're making a mod. Especially one with such a huge fanbase.

Don't worry I thought that once too.;)

Also we is a pretty strong term considering there is no team yet?

Also check your pm's. ;)

Having said that I would be happy to help out Sgt So and So.

[Sgt So and So]

But adding in the Jedi would not go with the Star Wars canon at all. And if you added like Luke to the Rebel side, atleast lets try not make him invincible like the Jedi in Battlefront. SGT So an So, lets start a Star Wars mod team then. I'll make a thread.
Thanks, Saden. I can be lead researcher if you want me to. I'm terrible with code. Just ask my Computer Programming teacher!:o

[[FFTF]Eurofighter]

what about a harry potter mod! :cool:

[Sgt So and So]

Eurofighter']what about a harry potter mod! :cool:
...:confused: There's no gratuitous violence!:D

[exedeath]

this mod will be like 1944 that will get a battle and will try to make as much close as possible to the real batle or will be like star wars battlefront that has many battles??

[Lord Justin]

Every mod needs researchers, that was a silly thing to say.;)

If you can tell me what an At-AT's foot looks like off the top of your head then i'll agree. But every little detail counts when you're making a mod. Especially one with such a huge fanbase.

A semi-circlular hinge hanging parallel to the body supporting a rather circular sole with four hanging toes spread evenly around the side of the foot. That's roughly its appearance.

But I'm just showing off :p . I could help with knowing finer details especially about technology and jedi, and could supply many sources of my knowledge from games, books, series, etc. And I just started a class in Java so maybe someday I will be able to code too :p .

I've also done a thing or two with picture editing, but nothing to be proud of. If I were to help with this Mod (which I would want to considering my enthusiasm), it would probably be mostly research. I imagined a Star Wars mod for 1944 a while ago but I didn't know so many others had ;)

[Sgt So and So]

this mod will be like 1944 that will get a battle and will try to make as much close as possible to the real batle or will be like star wars battlefront that has many battles??
We will center around a single major battle during either the Clone Wars or the Galactic Civil War, and add more as the community sees fit.:cool: