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NicholasJohnson
03-16-2007, 10:08 PM
Here is the thread where we can talk about all the UFO/Bigfoot/ghost-related stuff that is..."out there."

NOTE: I do not believe in UFOs (the kind that abduct people)/Bigfeets/humanoid space vacations

Let's start with some images, shall we?


COMMON PEOPLE ISNT IT OBVIOUS THAT THERE IS SOMETHING GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES!!! ~Dev

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/timages/page/bigfoot_jam1.jpg

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/timages/page/USMC6b.jpg

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/timages/page/terryxray1.jpg

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/timages/page/jrod_interrogation1.jpg


Friday, January 26, 2007
The NASCAR Lines finally REVEALED!!

The Nascar Lines are gigantic geoglyphs located in the Nascar Desert in PERU!! They were CREATED by the Nascar CULTURE between 200 BC and 600 AD!!The Nazca lines cannot be recognized as coherent FIGURES except from the AIR in a spqceship!! This PROVES that they were BUILT by Alien Helpers so THAT they knew where THEY had lets there CRAZY alien pets!! LETS look at some of these CRAZY images!!

This IMAGE shows from SPACE how straight the LINES are!! They LOOK like a landing STRIP for the Aliens!!


http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4708/2679/320/nazcazigzag.jpg


Chupacabras - DUMPED ALIEN pets!!

The chupacabra is a CRAZY creature that HAS been roaming around QUITE freely in South AMERICA and America!! It's NAME comes FROM the Polish translation of "GOAT SUCKING"!! THIS comes from the creature's HABIT of attacking and DRINKING the blood of livestock.

Some OF these Chupaacabaras HAVE been found DEAD themselves!! Probably AS the result of FOOD Poisening as they failed TO cook the chicken properly!!

After 37 Minutes of SOLID investigation I can REVEAL their IDENTITY!! It is VERY obviously THAT the sightings TAKE place near where UFO's have been SEEN!!IT is CLEAR to me that the UFO's are using EARTH like an ANIMAL dumping ground!! The UFO's are coming to earth to RELEASE all their unruly PETS here!! The ALIEN pets then run wild to SHOW their anger at being DUMPED!!

~ThEmIsFiTiShErE


Alright, so there are some..."articles" on dumped pets and the NASCAR conspiracy. Have at it. :)

enigma
03-16-2007, 10:09 PM
I believe there is life out there .... i also believe in UFOs ... i mean who built my house if not them!?!?!?!

Jensen
03-16-2007, 10:12 PM
ROFLOL!

I really can't decide what to think, but surely one thing is solved:

NASA does i real life mean: "NEVER A STRAIGHT ANSWER"

343Guiltyspark
03-16-2007, 10:15 PM
Aliens exist , its not a question!

the universe is FAR too large for us to be the only ones

enigma
03-16-2007, 10:16 PM
Drake Equation (http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious/Topics/SETI/drake_equation.html)

343Guiltyspark
03-16-2007, 10:18 PM
bigfoot , maybe

JonasDahlin
03-16-2007, 10:18 PM
I hade ghosts in my old house. It was scary as shit sometimes.:eek:

NicholasJohnson
03-16-2007, 10:28 PM
I wish there was a mod/game that was based off of the Roswell incident (it would need a lot of mystery and stuff in the beginning), except with it turning into an alien invasion with units, etc. Kind of like "War of the Worlds" but in the late 40s.

enigma
03-16-2007, 10:29 PM
Spirits :) .... they make me way too drunk ... wait wrong ones!

I see the odd thing from time to time, the outline or like a shadow of someone walking past, things out the corner of my eye etc
Ive been told when i was just a kid i use to talk to my Great Grandfather who had been dead for about 20 years, whom i described in perfect detail ... although noone had a picture of him up anywhere for me to use as a referance....

:)


Talking of Roswell ... ive been watching "Taken" again.... really great miniseries!

JonasDahlin
03-16-2007, 10:35 PM
"I see the odd thing from time to time, the outline or like a shadow of someone walking past, things out the corner of my eye etc"

yeah I have those too but I just think they are called "mental ghost" :)

I know this might sound a bit "corny" but in my old hous we had a closet that was always open when I woke in the morning. I even placed a chair in front of it but on the following morning when i woke up the closet was open :eek:

enigma
03-16-2007, 10:40 PM
"I see the odd thing from time to time, the outline or like a shadow of someone walking past, things out the corner of my eye etc"

yeah I have those too but I just think they are called "mental ghost" :)
:

lol am not crazy :p (well i am to an extent but on this :p )

JonasDahlin
03-16-2007, 10:52 PM
haha i don't think you are. But sometimes the mind plays tricks on you :P

RyanJacquel
03-16-2007, 11:16 PM
I am a firm believer that we are the only INTELLIGENT life forms out there. Sure there is little bugs on other planets and bacteria on Mars. But I think we are the only ones who can walk upright and speak to each other in languages.

Cias
03-16-2007, 11:38 PM
I am a firm believer that we are the only INTELLIGENT life forms out there. Sure there is little bugs on other planets and bacteria on Mars. But I think we are the only ones who can walk upright and speak to each other in languages.

how can you be a firm believer of that? no one even knows how big the universe is, to say there is no intelligent life SOMEWHERE out there is being rather close minded. now im not saying they visit us and are little green men or anything, im just saying somewhere out there i think there is intelligent life

Fallschirmjäger
03-17-2007, 11:34 AM
I think there are UFO's out there,so big out there realy,and that roswell cover up,is ailens or just cover ffor the rocket/missile work they where doing and spying on the russians.
As if they had the technology we should be far ahead now?,or the ailens have just watched us and done those abductions etc...
On bigfoot i think there might be something out there,but want to see the proof in footage first,with ghosts im shure there out there too,though i do want to see one,i then dont want it to follow or haunt me too,so maybe i dont want to see it,on film only or far away.

xtc-alec
03-17-2007, 12:23 PM
I hade ghosts in my old house. It was scary as shit sometimes.:eek:

Please do go on :)

enigma
03-17-2007, 02:04 PM
On bigfoot i think there might be something out there,but want to see the proof in footage first,with ghosts im shure there out there too,though i do want to see one,i then dont want it to follow or haunt me too,so maybe i dont want to see it,on film only or far away.


From people ive talked to and there opinions on these sort of things, chances are you will not see as your scared :)

lazlazlaz1
03-17-2007, 02:34 PM
I thought the Nascar lines were proven to be entirely man made ages ago? There was a research team who replicated some without any help from aliens.

And Roswell was also proven to be a military experiments years ago too...

Chupacabras prob just some animal we haven't documented, it is South America after all, there is one hell of a big Amazon rainforest for it to hide in.

But i have to say, that forth picture of the alien really does end it for me. That is clearly a real picture, yep it proves beyond any doubt at all that aliens do indeed exist...yep. Definitely, no doubt.

enigma
03-17-2007, 02:41 PM
And Roswell was also proven to be a military experiments years ago too...

weather balloons ? :p

lazlazlaz1
03-17-2007, 02:42 PM
weather balloons ? :p

yeh same thing...sorta. but you get my point.

enigma
03-17-2007, 02:46 PM
Have you eve rmet anyone who owns dark glasses at all?


http://www.maximumeyewear.com/productfolder/celebrity-sunglasses/movie-sunglasses/men-in-black-2-sunglasses/men-in-black-2-glasses.jpg


:p



Edit: ok being semi serious now.

I remember watching some light hearted documenatry on the subject once.

They showed some 15th centry painting and quoted some guys who asked "So what are the cloud like objects in the sky then?" to which the presenter replied "Clouds?"

It was a you had to be there moment, very funny though.

However that lead to me to this:
Linkpoo (http://dudeman.net/siriusly/ufo/art.shtml)

Intresting stuff, although some have stated that some of these can be explained by passages in the bible for the relgious painting, i.e. chartiots or fire in the sky etc

I also watched an intresting documenty once quite a few years ago now, iirc they had carving on stone tablets etc from a civlisation who were based in the Middle East thousands of year ago. Well something like that.
On which the dudes stated they had dipictions of test tubes, ufo's, spaceships, landing pads etc etc

Some of it was a bit iffy but none the less intresting.


Ive also read somewhere too that the first recorded sighting of an UFO (remeber doesnt mean a flying saucer just something in the sky you cant ID :p) was like the 12th centry or something!

lazlazlaz1
03-17-2007, 02:55 PM
Yeah I did, but I can't remember it any more :p

ShaunCowdell
03-17-2007, 04:09 PM
Aww Jackson man I don't like how you've made it all seem like a big joke... I was looking forward to having a nice discussion....
Sure some people don't believe in that stuff and no doubt discriminate others but people like me do believe in it. :p

NicholasJohnson
03-17-2007, 04:55 PM
Go ahead and have a discussion...I was just poking fun of some of the "lighter" aspects of the believers :P

ShaunCowdell
03-17-2007, 05:15 PM
Heh yeah no probs. I just wanted a voice! :D

Let's see, I remember watching a documentary on TV a while back. It was about the El Chupacabra. In the hills near one of the villages there is a huge medical facility(or something) which is completely off limits to all civilian personnel.
I can't help but feel that has something to do with El Chupacabra. I personally think it is a government expiriment, let loose to see how it reacts, survives ect. in the world around it.

UFO's... I do believe them. I've about 3 through my life, though ONE will always stay in my mind for ever.
STORY TIME! :D

Ok I was about 7-8-9... I dunno, one of those annoying ages. :p I was just coming home from my friends house at about 6pm,(night) he lived next door so I just needed to climb over the fence.
While on top of the fence I looked up, there, about 100 feet above me was a HUGE freaken whatcha-ma-callit!
It's very hard to explain even face-to-face but allow me to try. It was HUGE, probably... well I have no idea it was very big! It made NO noise. The best description I could give to it would be the fact it looked like a satellite. You know how they have the solar-panels on the sides? Like big wings? Like that. It had a tonne of lights. They did light me and the ground up but not as bright as they were on the ship thingy...
It hovered quite elegantly right over me. So straight and... Damn scary.
Tell you what I ran the last 10feet to my home quite fast!

Crop circles, I believe in them. Though now so many people make prank ones it's just gone stupid. I believe in the old, original ones.

Rosewell, I believe the incident did happen. Too tired to properly expain my views... But a weather balloon? Puh-Lease!


enigma I liked the link, very very Eery!



GHOSTS!
I have way too many views on these.
I believe in spirits... But ghosts... I think they're a time fluctuation cause within the universe an you're actually seen someone from the past.
So this would explain why they see things in old clothing and such. Also heard how some ghosts revisit their old steps in their former lifes?
That would be explained too.

Spirits are obviosly spirits of the dead. Why? Who knows, they could have some kind of job needed here.

I'm strictly athiest but I do try and make sense of everything I can.

Death, the most natural thing in the world and we know nothing about it.


As for life on other planets. WATCH THIS! (http://geeksaresexy.blogspot.com/2006/10/hubble-deep-field-most-important-image.html)


Ok please excuse spelling mistakes, grammer and other stuff... Very tired.
I'll try to explain my views a lot more clearly tomorrow.

Fallschirmjäger
03-20-2007, 06:07 AM
From people ive talked to and there opinions on these sort of things, chances are you will not see as your scared :)

Dont know if im scared,depends on the ghost,but probably not wanting to see it dose make you avoid it,while going after one you may bump into it and then see how scared you become and mud your pants.

Cias
03-20-2007, 08:36 AM
amazing link Raven, the guy said it better than i ever could... looking at the picture of a galaxy and seeing that many solar systems... the thought that earth is the ONLY planet that harbors intelligent life is truely absurd

lazlazlaz1
03-20-2007, 12:17 PM
does it make it absurd, or just that more amazing that we are the only intelligent life form?

Cias
03-20-2007, 12:31 PM
does it make it absurd, or just that more amazing that we are the only intelligent life form?

how can you without a doubt say we are the only intelligent life form in the whole entire universe?

JonasDahlin
07-16-2007, 05:13 AM
Don't belive in ghosts? watch this, it will scare the shite out of you.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deoJUBW9CI8&mode=related&search=#
(not for the faint hearted)

ShaunCowdell
07-16-2007, 06:48 AM
That was dumb... MANY of those videos have been proved to be fake. Poltergeist videos are not to be trusted as anyonw can fake it.
Haunted mirror - Fake
Demon Child - Fake(you cannot trust the Japanese with that sort of stuff)

I feel really stupid for believing in the paranormal after watching that...


Watch Ghost Hunters on YouTube. They're a group who investigate so-called haunting but try and DISPROVE them. Very great show. As a matter of fact, I uploaded the second season on there.

aag567
07-16-2007, 07:06 AM
Anyone watch A Haunting on Discovery channel?

enigma
07-16-2007, 10:08 AM
I believe and i know that there is "paranormal" beings out there, but imo the vast majoirty of tv shows, vids, photos and ghost hunters are alload of knobs attempting to make money and discredit the whole thing.

I especially love the ijiots of Most Haunted, its a very enternaining programme but alload of crap ... i watch it to lol at the woman who freaks out at the slightest thing and the scouse dude who seems to only be able to pick up on things if he stands in the dark or in an alcove! lol :)

Total_Overkill
07-16-2007, 12:10 PM
how can you without a doubt say we are the only intelligent life form in the whole entire universe?

wait wait wait..... wait.... since when are humans intelligent? :confused:


Dont know if im scared,depends on the ghost,but probably not wanting to see it dose make you avoid it,while going after one you may bump into it and then see how scared you become and mud your pants.

Personally, its not the "bump in the night" or the strange occurances... its the fact that ive realised, if such a thing exists and i come face to face with it... i cannot kill it! THAT is what scares me >.>

enigma
07-22-2007, 04:02 AM
People were asking for video proof....

Ta Da! (http://www.midiowa.com/cight/hampton_ghost_clip.htm)
Taken from CCTV from Hampton Court a few years back.
Caption states that some fire door kept getting opened (the alarm was going off saying it was open), site secuirty went down to check it out but the door was closed. CCTV camera showed the door open but no one was there.
Second time it happened they went on down and again no one was in sight and the door was closed and then inspected the CCTV which showed the above!


Although ive seen allot of what people would call "spooky shit" over the year, that just seems to be too corny to be believable.
I dunno, from my own experiances and from what other people have wittnessed i believe anything can happen ... prehaps am too cynical of the internet and anything which has been "recorded" lol


British newspaper article on the vid (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/12/20/nspook20.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/12/20/ixhome.html)

Close up and stills of the CCTV footage (http://ghoststudy.com/monthly/feb04/hampton.html)



oooo spooky :p

ShaunCowdell
07-22-2007, 09:50 AM
Seriously, watch this episode.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue3r-uSRSmA


Just watch and say what you think. You have to watch it all. :)



Enigma what you've posted is very interesting but, like everything on the internet, it isn't solid proof. But it does have GhostStudy looking into it which says something. :p

-X-Sublime
07-22-2007, 01:07 PM
I can say that i think we are not alone in this galxey and for shure not alone in this universe but we shall find out not soon i guess maybe about 1000 years or so

xtc-alec
07-22-2007, 02:13 PM
*looks at watch*

:p

Oh and raven, yeah i saw the end of that episode. The things are pretty creepy, like the rocks falling from the top =S

enigma
07-22-2007, 04:04 PM
What ive never understood is why do ghost hunters always go looking for spooks in the dark ... like it makes no sense :p

...
Why i hate programmes like this.

There ghost hunters but they admit they are going to debunk stuff
They always crap there pants at the slightest thing
There always like "what was that!?" (well what the hell do you tihnk?)
They always have to hunt for them in the dark...

among other stuff

maybe if they had the stupid lights on they would have got better stuff ... seriously ... lets turn the lights off but we will flash our torchs at whatever we see instead? Makes sence...

Other then that i supose some of the film footage did show something, especially the piece where something peered over the ledge.

Saden
07-22-2007, 05:08 PM
I am a firm believer that we are the only INTELLIGENT life forms out there. Sure there is little bugs on other planets and bacteria on Mars. But I think we are the only ones who can walk upright and speak to each other in languages.

What does having to stand upright and speak to each other have anything to do with being intelligent, you don't know, maybe another intelligent life form out there looks like a sheet of paper, that's smarter than any human ever can be. They don't need to be able to speak, or look like humans.

Saden
07-22-2007, 05:12 PM
What ive never understood is why do ghost hunters always go looking for spooks in the dark ... like it makes no sense :p

...
Why i hate programmes like this.

There ghost hunters but they admit they are going to debunk stuff
They always crap there pants at the slightest thing
There always like "what was that!?" (well what the hell do you tihnk?)
They always have to hunt for them in the dark...

among other stuff

maybe if they had the stupid lights on they would have got better stuff ... seriously ... lets turn the lights off but we will flash our torchs at whatever we see instead? Makes sence...

Other then that i supose some of the film footage did show something, especially the piece where something peered over the ledge.

Well, they need to make it more dramatic and entertaining, they don't want to show something that just tells people why ghosts don't exist, and don't show anything entertaining, fuck that, they need to entertain people, if that means crapping their pants and turning any lights off, so be it.

Lord Justin
07-22-2007, 10:31 PM
They showed some 15th centry painting and quoted some guys who asked "So what are the cloud like objects in the sky then?" to which the presenter replied "Clouds?"

It was a you had to be there moment, very funny though.

Hahah, that is a perfect example of how all the conspiracy nutjobs should be dismissed. All the time I'm watching shows like that on History Channel and I laugh at how retarded some of those people are. They only believe that crap because they want to.


However that lead to me to this:
Linkpoo (http://dudeman.net/siriusly/ufo/art.shtml)

Intresting stuff, although some have stated that some of these can be explained by passages in the bible for the relgious painting, i.e. chartiots or fire in the sky etc

I also watched an intresting documenty once quite a few years ago now, iirc they had carving on stone tablets etc from a civlisation who were based in the Middle East thousands of year ago. Well something like that.
On which the dudes stated they had dipictions of test tubes, ufo's, spaceships, landing pads etc etc

Some of it was a bit iffy but none the less intresting.

I know what you're talking about with the carvings of technology from an ancient middle east society....it kills me that I can't remember the name :mad:. Those did look fishy but if you look at them in an unbiased way, They can all be pretty easily explained.

Besides, if E.T.'s came to an ancient society, I doubt they'd have brought...helicopters, and jets. Just seems kinda....pointless.

Oh and your link is broken :p


What does having to stand upright and speak to each other have anything to do with being intelligent, you don't know, maybe another intelligent life form out there looks like a sheet of paper, that's smarter than any human ever can be. They don't need to be able to speak, or look like humans.

That's one theory ;). The other theory is that the brain-upstairs, two-legs two-arms configuration is so logical and works so well that an intelligent creature most likely wouldn't look much different than us.

Just statin' the theories


I have way too many views on these.
I believe in spirits... But ghosts... I think they're a time fluctuation cause within the universe an you're actually seen someone from the past.
So this would explain why they see things in old clothing and such. Also heard how some ghosts revisit their old steps in their former lifes?
That would be explained too.

Dude....that's really weird. That is exactly, I mean exactly the same idea I considered about ghosts. My school has a phenomenology club (we discuss all manner of paranormal stuff), and one day we were watching some documentary about ghosts, and I came up with this theory that they could just be 'recordings', if you will, of past people. Remnants of them left behind somehow, by some force we don't yet understand. That would explain why ghosts almost always 'haunt' a certain house or building and generally do the same thing every time they're seen, very repetitively.

Weird that we both had the same idea :p

And for aliens, I think there's life away from earth as intelligent as earth's life. I'm not inclined to believe that they are visiting us in big flying, glowing metal frisbees, but...my mind is always open to all possibilities.

Bigfoot, Lock Ness monster, Chupacabra...they all could be genuine. I lean more toward bigfoot as something genuine, considering the big mountain gorrillas in Africa were unknown to science and completely laughed at until the 50's. Loch Ness monster, again, it's possible it's some remote plesiosaur, but unlikely. Chupacabra...I think is hoaxes and mistakes on the parts of those trying to identify what killed their animals. But, again...possible.

The bottom line is that our entire reality is based on our perception. If you truly belive, beyond shadow of a doubt, that you are going to see something...you will see it. Thus no one can really fully discredit anything :p. You can disprove it according to Newtonian physics or even under Einsteinian scrutiny, but the real way the Universe works is either A) yet unknown to us or B) nonexistant (as in, there's no official way it works...it just happens to work certain ways at certain times or for certain observers).

Yeah, I know, I'm a quantum physics nut, but...this is the real paranormal :p

enigma
07-22-2007, 10:50 PM
The link did work when i posted it :p

The empire i was thinking of ive recently found out were called the Sumerians (if you google them am pretty sure you will come across some of the carvings)

Finally, one should make the differenace between ghosts and spirits, i think thats the right terminolgoy.
The first i would agree with you that there some sort of recording, however the latter i would make the case that there free roaming, people who are visiting, angels etc etc

Lord Justin
07-24-2007, 01:53 AM
The link did work when i posted it :p

The empire i was thinking of ive recently found out were called the Sumerians (if you google them am pretty sure you will come across some of the carvings)

Finally, one should make the differenace between ghosts and spirits, i think thats the right terminolgoy.
The first i would agree with you that there some sort of recording, however the latter i would make the case that there free roaming, people who are visiting, angels etc etc

Was it the Sumerians? I thought of them when I remembered those carvings but I thought it was someone else....I'll look it up later :p

Well, what a ghost/spirit is is really up for interpretation or your personal definitions, but I'm not inclined to believe people come back from the dead as silvery images. I recognize the possibility that the deceased are not truly dead and can communicate with our....dimension, plane of existence, whatever you want to call it. I also recognize the possibility that some apparitions are indeed spirits, and though I'm hesitant to take them at all literally, Angels are as possible as anything. I know Angels exist, just like everything exists...whether they're supernatural messengers from God or just an idea that gives people comfort and a sense of security, they do exist.

enigma
07-24-2007, 03:23 AM
Open to interpretation:

Sumerian carvings....

Link (http://www.crystalinks.com/sumerartgray.jpg)
Link (http://www.crystalinks.com/sumerartmseum.jpg)
Link (http://www.crystalinks.com/sumerartlinks.jpg)


Wierd one:
http://www.crystalinks.com/sumerart9.jpg

I remember watching a documatry on them years ago, they showed carvings which had them holding up vases infront of wierd looking creatures and objects. What the documatry portrayed as Human kinds origins, as test tube babies to some alien race :p:D


http://www.edwardtbabinski.us/geocentrism/sumerian_artifact.jpg
Erm ... 10-12 planets!? (although if you google this there also seems to be allot of material debunking this ... so oh well!)

enigma
07-24-2007, 04:16 AM
I remember watching some documentary several years ago which rambled on about the Sumerians and how they knew it all including the knowledge of our origins.
I was pretty shocked and was sorta like "wow!" when i saw it. But i have always wanted to rewatch it just so i could take the info in and anaylise it better then i could of back then.

This seems pretty close to one i watched (Although i dont think it is the same documentary, as it feels too short and i could have swore it touched on the whole gold mining thing allot more)

But nether the less here it is...

The Sumerians Part 1 of 3 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=rIWQywTZIls)
Part 2 of 3 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=BU__zoUOTGg&mode=related&search=)
Part 3 of 3 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=JMmFFfS5XxU&mode=related&search=)
(30 mins total)


Watching it, some of it is interesting and raises some questions regarding the solar system.
Although i think the stuff on our origins etc seems just a little bit far fetched and well down right just plain silly! :p

(am also think some of the things they brought up have since bee debunked)

So what do you all think?

ShaunCowdell
07-24-2007, 04:25 AM
What ive never understood is why do ghost hunters always go looking for spooks in the dark ... like it makes no sense :p

...
Why i hate programmes like this.

There ghost hunters but they admit they are going to debunk stuff
They always crap there pants at the slightest thing
There always like "what was that!?" (well what the hell do you tihnk?)
They always have to hunt for them in the dark...

among other stuff

maybe if they had the stupid lights on they would have got better stuff ... seriously ... lets turn the lights off but we will flash our torchs at whatever we see instead? Makes sence...

Other then that i supose some of the film footage did show something, especially the piece where something peered over the ledge.

Haha! No man I know what you mean! It's why I dislike them as well. :rolleyes:

The only reason I watch that show is because they actually get some good footage, as you saw (if you watched) in that episode.
I should make a montage of clips that I believe are real and post them for us.
They get some really scary stuff on thermal.


"There ghost hunters but they admit they are going to debunk stuff"
If there's no solid proof, why pretend it? They themselves are after evidence of ghosts not... *sighs* 'orbs'... Hey, they debunked a lot of things in that episode.


They always crap there pants at the slightest thing"
Don't get me started on that... Even though I crap myself when 'paranormal' stuff happens, they shouldn't... They're meant to be proffesionals.

"They always have to hunt for them in the dark..."
Ever seen a ghost in the dark? :p
I just thought of this now but... I'm just going to be forward with it. We know that 'ghosts' are energy. What if at night, it's easier to manifest because there is fewer people disturbing the energy? Maybe like Chi?




Dude....that's really weird. That is exactly, I mean exactly the same idea I considered about ghosts. My school has a phenomenology club (we discuss all manner of paranormal stuff), and one day we were watching some documentary about ghosts, and I came up with this theory that they could just be 'recordings', if you will, of past people. Remnants of them left behind somehow, by some force we don't yet understand. That would explain why ghosts almost always 'haunt' a certain house or building and generally do the same thing every time they're seen, very repetitively.

Weird that we both had the same idea

That is weird. But the more I think about it, the more sense it almost makes. We can't even define what time it...
But naturally, the more I think about it, the more I can't comprehend it... Hoorah for theories!



I will watch your clips later on enigma, I've never heard of the Sumerians...







While we're on this subject. Anyone think anything of the year 2012? Or would that call for a new thread? :rolleyes:

enigma
07-24-2007, 04:41 AM
You'll slap me after you have wasted 30 mins of your life and realise how far fetched some of it is :p


"They always have to hunt for them in the dark..."
Ever seen a ghost in the dark?
I just thought of this now but... I'm just going to be forward with it. We know that 'ghosts' are energy. What if at night, it's easier to manifest because there is fewer people disturbing the energy? Maybe like Chi?

Ive seen spooky stuff in both the dark and the light, same with people i know.

I think the whole lets look for them in the dark is another dude said up above, to make it more spoooooky.


lol and whats wrong with orbs? :p


IF you want a great laugh you should hunt down some Most Haunted episodes. There great, there medium is a fraud and can only commuicate with the other side if he stands in a cupboard or an alcove ... no where else.

The team, who have been doing this for years now ... poo themselves at everything and have the worse equipment ever ... its always failing.

The presenter is the best, she screams her head off at the slightest thing.

All your waiting for is the rest of the Carry On cast to walk in on them ....

ShaunCowdell
07-24-2007, 05:05 AM
As have I, but the majority of what I've experienced happened at night.

Orbs... I've seen orbs and I DO believe they are in the paranormal category but... When people start taking pictures of dust or water vapour and claim them as ghosts you start to edge away from them... :p


Most Haunted series was just .. dumb...

Lord Justin
07-24-2007, 05:15 AM
While we're on this subject. Anyone think anything of the year 2012? Or would that call for a new thread? :rolleyes:

Heh. I think something's going to happen. I don't think the world will end :p. But trust the Mayans to predict something big. And something might happen that we don't even notice but its wake will have an impact.

Anyway IMO it doesn't really matter if anything happens. It'll only matter afterward, and by that time there will be no way of stopping it (seeing as how it'll have already happened). That's one of my philosophies on life :)

I'll watch your Sumeria thing later too, Enigma.


That is weird. But the more I think about it, the more sense it almost makes. We can't even define what time it...
But naturally, the more I think about it, the more I can't comprehend it... Hoorah for theories!

Heh, same here. I was gonna write a short story using that idea but never got around to it. I might pick it up soon though... But yeah when you get to the point where you can't comprehend it, that's where the limits of our brainpower and our knowledge prohibits us, so....too bad :p Unless you and I are alone going to present a plausible theory to the scientific community, we can only wonder :rolleyes:

Know what? Ghosts are probably just a glitch in the Matrix anyway...

[FFTF]Eurofighter
07-24-2007, 02:28 PM
Seriously, watch this episode.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue3r-uSRSmA


Just watch and say what you think. You have to watch it all. :)


lol i watched that thing and for me its clear that its all a set-up. The whole investigation you see and hear zero of what they say they hear and see. Like theyre hearing voices and conversations and seeing shadows. In the end the only evidence they have is some black pixels moving from left to right. Dude even i can make that with flash...
The biggest scam in the whole movie is radioactivity. Theyre actually saying ghosts are made of radioactive atoms...

Sgt So and So
07-24-2007, 08:38 PM
That's one theory ;). The other theory is that the brain-upstairs, two-legs two-arms configuration is so logical and works so well that an intelligent creature most likely wouldn't look much different than us.


Of course, the "exoskeleton and hive mind" and "flippers and air-breather's" templates have been more than amply successful as well. Dolphins are the only true non-primate rival to our species in intelligence and, with sufficient evolution, could become even closer to our current level, and have been around since approximately the 2nd Ice Age, which was way after the first of our species began trodding around in Africa. And insects have survived for billions of years (compared to what, barely 2 million?) due to their tiny size and massize numbers, and make up the majority of life on the planet, second only to plants. How, then, do you deem us the successful species?

enigma
07-24-2007, 10:14 PM
I remember watching something where some scientist stated the reason we are smarter then everything else on the plent is because we are extelligent.
He went on to say something alongs the lines of that being we build crap and paint etc compared to the other intelligent speicies.

Now that was the first as far as can remmeber only time ive heard that term so dont know if its true ? :p

Sgt So and So
07-25-2007, 03:40 AM
Of course, ants build crap. They build LOTS of crap. Birds build crap, and color it with bright things they gather from the surrounding countryside. Chimpanzees in Africa have now been observed making crude tools to hunt other primates and get into trees. His theory, I must say, is teetering on a unicycle.

Lord Justin
07-25-2007, 06:06 AM
Of course, the "exoskeleton and hive mind" and "flippers and air-breather's" templates have been more than amply successful as well. Dolphins are the only true non-primate rival to our species in intelligence and, with sufficient evolution, could become even closer to our current level, and have been around since approximately the 2nd Ice Age, which was way after the first of our species began trodding around in Africa. And insects have survived for billions of years (compared to what, barely 2 million?) due to their tiny size and massize numbers, and make up the majority of life on the planet, second only to plants. How, then, do you deem us the successful species?

I never said we were the most successful species ;). I was just stating an alternate category of theories as to how intelligent life might look. Didn't say I believed particularly in the one I stated....just stated it.

Besides, I really don't belive any theory about how ET intelligence would look, but I believe them all. My philosophy says it doesn't matter how they look, because they do indeed look whatever way they look, and when (and if) we find them, they will look as they do (or will) no matter how we thought they might look.

-X-Sublime
07-25-2007, 12:17 PM
We just evolved diffrent

Sgt So and So
07-25-2007, 12:23 PM
I never said we were the most successful species ;). I was just stating an alternate category of theories as to how intelligent life might look. Didn't say I believed particularly in the one I stated....just stated it.

Besides, I really don't belive any theory about how ET intelligence would look, but I believe them all. My philosophy says it doesn't matter how they look, because they do indeed look whatever way they look, and when (and if) we find them, they will look as they do (or will) no matter how we thought they might look.

Sorry if it seemed to attack you, but my response was aimed at the theory and the man who created it. He just seems... a little biased. Or religious.

enigma
07-25-2007, 04:27 PM
Of course, ants build crap. They build LOTS of crap. Birds build crap, and color it with bright things they gather from the surrounding countryside. Chimpanzees in Africa have now been observed making crude tools to hunt other primates and get into trees. His theory, I must say, is teetering on a unicycle.

lol i really cant go into detail on this one as it one just like a 5 min thing i watched some time ago.

As for the monkeys making weapons ... twas scary to read that when it was the papers a while ago. They wittness them making themselves spears and then stabbing some aniaml which was in the hollow of a tree in a fashion the researcher described as like the shower scene in Psycho.

:eek: