View Full Version : Iranian review of "300"
NicholasJohnson
03-17-2007, 11:36 AM
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Jensen
03-17-2007, 12:22 PM
Fucked up iranians!
OliverMarshall
03-17-2007, 12:50 PM
I don't blame them , they have a major blockbuster which is porraying Iranians in an unfavourable light. I doubt you would be pleased if a major blockbuster came out depicting massacres of Native Americans by American forces now would you?
yanks26
03-17-2007, 01:21 PM
I don't blame them , they have a major blockbuster which is porraying Iranians in an unfavourable light. I doubt you would be pleased if a major blockbuster came out depicting massacres of Native Americans by American forces now would you?
I wouldn't mind it because it was absolutely true that we (U.S.) massacred Indians. They don't teach it enough in schools, so quite frankly, they should make a movie on it. People watch movies, not so many people read about history.
NicholasJohnson
03-17-2007, 01:32 PM
I don't blame them , they have a major blockbuster which is porraying Iranians in an unfavourable light. I doubt you would be pleased if a major blockbuster came out depicting massacres of Native Americans by American forces now would you?
LOLZORZ
Ever heard of Dances With Wolves?
I find it hilarious that the subject always diverts to how evil America is/was and how I am unfair to the oppressed peoples and blah blah blah :p Frankly I'm tired of all this "moral equivalence" BS whenever someone of an opposing view posts something. It dodges the issue and serves only to take the subject off topic.
Where were these guys when the 300 Spartans and Alexander came out? Hmm? Persians are "the baddies" in those movies as well.
Back to the actual topic:
1. They claim the Jooooooooooosssssss are responsible for "300."
2. The US Government made/funded the film.
3. But I cannot question them because I would supposedly be offended if a movie about "genocide of the Native Americans" comes out (too bad many already have :rolleyes: ).
So we are to conclude that Frank Miller, the so-called Jewish pig-dog US government employee, purposefully wrote his comic book years ago in order for a movie to be made, which then would allow the US to attack poor downtrodden Iran. But all of this is irrelevant because I would supposedly be offended by the 34th movie depicting the massacre of Native Americans.
There is a big difference between A: Me and other random forum people and B: The Iranian government, who said this film was "an insult to Persian civilization."
lazlazlaz1
03-17-2007, 01:38 PM
This is beyond silly. It was a historical event for one, so it actually happened, soo what is there to complain about? Its not like I would get all angry if someone made a film about 1066, and that is more recent.
Plus the guys were Persian, they are not Iranians. So yeh, its the same region, but its not like the film says "IRANIANS SUCK BIG TIME AND SUCK AT FIGHTING AND ARE LAME AND SHOULD BE DESTROYED".
JonasDahlin
03-17-2007, 03:29 PM
Well the movie did suck any way so why aruge about it? :)
Don get me wrong, I love sin city but this film screemed brave heart and troja so loud it made my ears bleed.
(off-topic)
However this movie will rock!
http://www.gorehoundinc.com/
It has everynthing! people killing zombified nazis and zombified nazis killing people!
lazlazlaz1
03-17-2007, 03:50 PM
I think you may be in the minority Zynthetikk. It made 70 million dollars in its first weekend, and has been given top ratings everywhere. But then it hasnt come out in UK yet so I can't really comment till I've seen it.
Jensen
03-17-2007, 03:52 PM
Looks like a blockbuster too me! Nazified zombies and zombified nazis sounds almost to good to be true:D
Corporate Ignorance
03-17-2007, 03:53 PM
Ancient Persians were Indo-europeans....:) It was totally diffrent ethnical people wiht totally diffrent mentality and traditions.
Arabian tribes came into historical scene several hundred years later.
Although, I can understand them.
Movie really sucks(IMHO)...:)
343Guiltyspark
03-17-2007, 04:01 PM
they got their asses handed to them by 300 guys
CRY IRAN CRY!
DavidUpton
03-17-2007, 04:09 PM
Bloody hell. Do you see me crying over 'The Patriot'? I think the Iranians need to shut up.
JonasDahlin
03-17-2007, 04:15 PM
Well this movie is just making money on hype alone.
I mean it's a Frank Miller movie! And that alone makes the movie sell 70 million
if you take a closer look and skip the fanboynism there isn't really anything new in this movie. Omg the outcast/freak betrayed King Leonidas. I never saw that one coming :D Oh and at the ending scene of the movie reminds me of the ending scene of another movie, oh that's right brave heart :)
This movie is just one big cliché you are just to proud to realize it.
Btw I didn't know that the spartans used lightsabers. Beacuse usely there would be a alot of blood gushing out when you cut someone's head off.
Dutchlike
03-17-2007, 04:40 PM
Okay...that was just a "Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude!" moment.
Hyperion2010
03-17-2007, 05:26 PM
The greeks fucked up the persians, who gives a shit, that was nearly 2500 years ago, seriously. I know the iranians think of themselves as persians, but that is taking things a bit too far.
Corporate Ignorance
03-17-2007, 05:37 PM
Actually, battle of Phermopyls was LOST by greeks...:) Leonidas died a heroic deatch, protectic the retreating greek main forces. After that, Persian army sacked and plundered Athens.:)
|:XAS:| Bravo
03-17-2007, 05:38 PM
Zynthetikk I worry for your social fitting. You're almost completely opposite of everyone here! Oh well, at least you can say that your different and not following the crowd (even though you can be terribly wrong at times).
Why can't we have this movie but the Iranians can have movies about killing the west? We are being tolerant of their attitudes to such a level, but they can't tolerate one damn movie about history so long ago? I don't see any Saudi's getting a fit over Aladdin, or English over The Patriot/Braveheart. I would say The Passion but then Mel had a wierd drunk anti-semitic moment (he later defended himself when he was asked "Who killed Jesus?" and replied with "I did").
enigma
03-17-2007, 05:46 PM
Am offended by Bryan Adams! That means Canada must pay!
Corporate Ignorance
03-17-2007, 05:49 PM
Zynthetikk is totally ok, Bravo...:)
I'm not sure that it is a correct way to make generalization regarding people with certain beliefs.
I'm not saying anything bad regarding you, for instance, because you support war in Iraq, wich I personally found aboslutley wrong and foolish, but I respect your opinion. Let us not down to childish insults.
Let us stay calm and reasonable.:)
Sgt So and So
03-17-2007, 05:51 PM
Technically, the Persians, according to Iranian policies and standpoints on religion, are infidels, since they worship multiple deities. So what are they doing defending pagans or, worse to the Iranians, Zoroastrians!:eek: Plus, Judaism was still in its infancy and mostly unknown during the timeframe of the story.
lazlazlaz1
03-17-2007, 06:07 PM
The silly thing is, the capital of Persia was Baghdad, Iraq. Not Iran.
JonasDahlin
03-17-2007, 06:25 PM
|:XAS:| Bravo In sweden I have no problem fitting in and neihter would you, because here it's alright to have very diffent opinions about everything. You might se me as a very negativ guy but that's not true. I like many things however I look at the world with critical eyes and don't take any thing for granted.
Corporate Ignorance thanks mate, you're not to bad yourself :)
Chukada
03-17-2007, 06:29 PM
The Iranian governement didn't like the movie because of the visual representation of the persians. The ugly "giant" and the fat guy with swords for arms; also the savage way the "persians" treated everyone and further more the ideal that the king of the persian empire was so content on himself and his gold.
In the patriot the british soldiers looked like british soldiers, in braveheart the british soldiers looked like british solders. ;) In 300 the persians looked evil.
I don't care though; its the movie industry, they insult everyone.
The battle was heroric, the movie based on a graphic novel (reasoning of visual representation of the persians.) Hollywood even insulted the greeks and perhaps the spartans too in this movie.
enigma
03-17-2007, 06:50 PM
In the patriot the british soldiers looked like british soldiers, in braveheart the british soldiers looked like british solders. ;)
If i could find it, i would like to an episode of the Critic where he did the patriot. It was years ago like but i remember it being very funny! :D
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/41/TheCritic2.jpg/200px-TheCritic2.jpg
2ltben
03-17-2007, 09:13 PM
You have to admit that they're right in some regards. Frank Miller, who knew the entire history behind Thermopylae, took liberties with history. Its artistic license, its allowed. The Spartans were violent, they were racist, and they were warmongers. And the Persians, who fought in the Greco-Persian War not wearing monstrous-looking armor and yelling their lungs out, rather just a shroud concealing their face except for the eyes and fighting silently, are portrayed in a bad light. The movie shows the 300 Spartans at Thermopylae, but not the four to six thousand Greeks from other city-states who were also there.
There's just one thing that's being overlooked. This movie isn't based on history. Its based on a Frank Miller comic book.
In the patriot the british soldiers looked like british soldiers, in braveheart the british soldiers looked like british solders. ;) In 300 the persians looked evil.
I don't care though; its the movie industry, they insult everyone.
wait so its cool for british soldiers to be shown raping and killing women? or rounding up a whole village, locking them in the church and setting it on fire? yet its not ok to show 300 half nekkid men raping persians? where is the justice!
Chukada
03-18-2007, 12:25 AM
wait so its cool for british soldiers to be shown raping and killing women? or rounding up a whole village, locking them in the church and setting it on fire? yet its not ok to show 300 half nekkid men raping persians? where is the justice!
Yes, as long as they look like real soldiers.
Yes, as long as they look like real soldiers.
but they have clearly stated they werent going for 100% historical accuracy, if you were the spartans and that many people landed on your beach. you would think they are monsters too lol
css2d
03-18-2007, 12:20 PM
After seeing this I don't think Iran is in such a good position to condem "300"
State television at its best:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A12iqKP19jE
Schrem [506th PIR]
03-18-2007, 04:34 PM
Sorry but WTH!?
Lord Justin
03-19-2007, 02:26 AM
Bloody hell. Do you see me crying over 'The Patriot'? I think the Iranians need to shut up.
Hahahah, nice. Definitely true. Unfortunately...I can't give an example like that (being American). Because no film has ever been made depicting Americans being slaughtered. We're always 'the good guys.' Which is obnoxiously false in a lot of history. Just because our boys pwned that hard in WWII (no offense...but it did happen) doesn't make our entire history the same. Pretty often we sucked.
Persians aren't Iranians. Moreover, SPARTANS are not AMERICANS! So why does a film about Spartans slaughtering Persians offend anybody? The Iranians are indignant for their culture that they don't even know well enough to realize their own culture is not being indignified? They need history lessons. Then let them complain when something really is offending.
"Propoganda" my ass. The news is propganda. School is propoganda, at its best. Films are entertainment. Guess what? 300 Spartans really did hold off a hundred thousand Persians. It's not made up. The details are fabricated but the plot is generally right.
Although, I have to say, it was kinda ridiculous that the Spartans were portrayed as being such freedom-loving good guys. In the movie, the biggest thing they hold against the Persians is the slavery...well, Sparta had slaves just like everyone else :p
And the movie itself...I've seen better. Visually incredible. Plot...lacking. Acting...sufficient and believable, but not oustanding. Probably won't buy it. I know the point of the movie was to be over-the-top and cliche and stuff, but it just seemed over-over-the-top. Just seemed like too much. It was good though.
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