Whats Iran playing at?

[DavidUpton]

British sailors are conducting operations in Iraqi waters, and then armed Iranian forces arrest them for no reason. What the hell do they think they are doing? This is completely illegal and, in my eyes, an act of war.

[xplosiv]

Crikey.. I was just gonna post this myself. Absolutely, an act of war.

I was hoping for little or no Brit involvement in anything to do with Iran :( Hope they are handed back over soon without any problems, don't want to see more conflict in the Middle East - especially involving the UK. It's a definate reason for action against Iran ffs!! :mad:

Edit: some info - Yahoo (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/23032007/140/uk-sailors-marines-seized-iran.html)

[|Crimson|]

Hmm. Could well be the start of something big.

I just hope those soldiers get home more than anything though.

[Cias]

damn, this doesnt look good for the future. hope they all get home safe, if not im sure there will be hell to pay

[D.O.A]

It's happened before just a bit of "show of strength" on Iran's part.

[enigma]

There going to be a bunch of dudes with holes in there heads if the marines and sailors dont come back soon ...

[BillSpargo]

This type of thing has been going on for some time along the river border in the south as the article mentions. I suppose it's in retaliation to the Iranian diplomats being arrested by US forces in Iraq. It's just getting the measure of the enemy and possibly for domestic consumption as well.

[Saden]

Crikey.. I was just gonna post this myself. Absolutely, an act of war.

I was hoping for little or no Brit involvement in anything to do with Iran :( Hope they are handed back over soon without any problems, don't want to see more conflict in the Middle East - especially involving the UK. It's a definate reason for action against Iran ffs!! :mad:

Edit: some info - Yahoo (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/23032007/140/uk-sailors-marines-seized-iran.html)


It wouldn't be conflict in the Middle East, it would be conflict in Persia lol.

[Corporate Ignorance]

Iranians again prove that they will fight.


All that I can say- Iran is stronger then Iraq.
Muslims from all the world consider Iran a religious authority.

War with Iran may lead to terrible consequences, IMHO and can have tremendous impact not only on population of the tortured Middle-East but on U.S, Asia and Europe as well...
Though, we can't stop the tide, it seems. Hatred is growing wthin Iran.

[DavidUpton]

Is it me, or is Iran essentially trying to bully Britain? I mean, firstly they take our navy personel when they are NOT in Iran's waters, and now they are basically saying that they won't release the woman because we have gone to the UN. What they want is something along the lines of:

"We will arrest those British people on an illegal basis, but claim it is legal really, so that we can parade them in front of our cameras and make the UK look bad. If Britain attempts to put up any form of aggresion to us then we will just refuse to let them go (even though we have promised we would let the woman go) and put them on trial."

[Daffy_Duck]

For me its simply just look like Iran, want to start a war with the West. This is precise one of the reason why we shoulden let Iran get A-weapons(I now Iran says that they wont use the uran, to make weapons, but who the fuck actully believes in that)
That was just my opinion!

PS: Sorry for my bad english, hope you can read it anyway

[OliverMarshall]

we should capture their president and castrate him (muslim style) infront of a tv audience of radical christians.........

[Daffy_Duck]

Hmmm, i really like your way of thinking ; )

[enigma]

It said on yahoo before that they had the Iranian people out and about demending the British sailors and marines be hung! :eek:

[OliverMarshall]

lol, that would really upset things

[Daffy_Duck]

Damn, what age is Iran in, the stone age?? I'm wonderring if Iran are even thinking about what would happend if they hang these british soldiers!!

[Sgt So and So]

Damn, what age is Iran in, the stone age?? I'm wonderring if Iran are even thinking about what would happend if they hang these british soldiers!!

If you look beyond the world of Europe and North America, my friend, you will see a frighteningly violent and basic existence our teachers don't tell us about. Life outside of our "bubble", as far as I know, is much harder to survive in.

[CBowling]

Well the Iranian president believes that in order for the Messaih to come down and save the Islamic Nation, the Islamic Nation must first be "wounded"


This is the reason why, if he were to have access to a nuclear weapon, he would launch it at Israel, knowing that other countries would retaliate, either nukes on them or just total war.


So he will try to basically cause other nations to attack him, in order for the messiah to come down and save the Islamic people. Maybe he feels that right now, its going to slow for his taste so he decided to try and provoke Britain.

Idk, It's just know its a messed up situation.

[colonal chaos]

Idk, I just know its a messed up situation.
QFT.

[Appleskates]

Iranians again prove that they will fight.


All that I can say- Iran is stronger then Iraq.
Muslims from all the world consider Iran a religious authority.

War with Iran may lead to terrible consequences, IMHO and can have tremendous impact not only on population of the tortured Middle-East but on U.S, Asia and Europe as well...
Though, we can't stop the tide, it seems. Hatred is growing wthin Iran.

I had read earlier that there was a growing anti-government movement among students in Iran, like shouting "down with the dictator" when the president was giving a speech. If anything comes of this, I hope that a rebellion or a protest movement will occur, and that the U.K. sailors/marines will get home safely.

[Corporate Ignorance]

I hope too...

[Strangel]

So, now they have the sailors apologizing for being in their waters....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070330/ap_on_re_mi_ea/british_seized_iran_205

If anyone believes that these Brits are doing it out of their own free-will then you're sadly mistaken. Why are they still there? Let's go get em out. I'll enlist to go to war with Iran and put an earlier end to this 1000 year old BS. Sure, Iran has a decent military... 'bout time we had a good fight. I mean, I wish we could all just shake hands and get along but that's not going to happen. We're in the 2 countries on either side of Iran and it's not by accident. We're planning on taking out the Iranian govt too. Prolly would've been there already if Bush had more support for the war. I think it's time to end it now. I don't know about you, but I certainly don't want MY children fighting this war, for me, at home...

And, God forbid, anything should happen to those sailors or marines, but... talk about martyrs.

Besides, this is making gas prices ridiculous.

[Appleskates]

*deleted because of double post*

[Appleskates]

As much as I'd love to see Iran's government topple like a stack of bricks, I think America should sit this one out unless Britain calls on us for aid. Then we should follow the old adage of NATO-an attack upon one is an attack upon all. In terms of how we support them should the conflict turn hot- I'd recommend air support, and surgical bombing of their nuclear research facilities.

Again, I'm not being a "war hawk", I'm just saying that IF it comes to war, then America's contribution should be air support. The problem is: This would be a golden opportunity to stall Iran's quest for nuclear technology, and to show them that the Western democracies are not "decadent". But with the defeatist "Vietnam Syndrome" which is coursing through the media, the public wouldn't stand for it, and I hardly want to see inflation get kicked up as a result of more deficit spending. Of course, since America's commitment to the world as a superpower remains clear, we must support our allies first, and worry about the budget second.

[Fallschirmjäger]

This happened in 2004 too,where was there ship and air support to stop this happening?,you dont see any iranian patrols getting in to trouble,though maybe they should do something similar to a patrol of theres.

[Cias]

i am also wondering if the iranians are threatening them with execution or something, since two of them have publicly apologized for being in iranian waters. then again... what if they actually were in iranian waters?

EDIT: after finding the full iranian tv video of the soldier apologizing. i am pretty damn sure he is being forced to say this stuff, iran is really tryin to start shit here.

here is the linky http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=438_1175256632

im curious.. how many people would actually support war with iran? who would join their respected armed forces to aid the fight? if war does indeed break out i may join the US air force. ive already taken the test for it and all that stuff last year, i was gonna join but chickened out. mainly cause i dont feel that the shit going on in iraq is worth risking my life over, i feel iran as a much greater threat then iraq ever was though. what is your say?

[Corporate Ignorance]

As you probably guess what my advice will be I would say nothing.:)

[Cias]

As you probably guess what my advice will be I would say nothing.:)

well thats not true, from what posts ive read from you, i can easily tell you are against the iraq war. but what about war with iran?

[Chu [3rd ID]]

Well the Iranian president believes that in order for the Messaih to come down and save the Islamic Nation, the Islamic Nation must first be "wounded"


This is the reason why, if he were to have access to a nuclear weapon, he would launch it at Israel, knowing that other countries would retaliate, either nukes on them or just total war.


So he will try to basically cause other nations to attack him, in order for the messiah to come down and save the Islamic people. Maybe he feels that right now, its going to slow for his taste so he decided to try and provoke Britain.

Idk, It's just know its a messed up situation.

This may be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I know that people have strong feelings about religion and it can be a great thing but that is just Bull*hit.

[CBowling]

;63191']This may be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I know that people have strong feelings about religion and it can be a great thing but that is just Bull*hit.

Haha, when I first read your post I thought you were talking about my post being the stupidest thing you ever read :o

But ya, it is really sad, especially since he believes many of his own people must die in order for it to happen.

Thats why alot of people were nervous about him getting a nuke, they know he would use it on Israel to accomplish his goals.

[Faunze]

I hope these guys wise up, I reckon world war 3 is on it's way. And because it's against Iran, nukes will probably be involved. Those trigger happy bastards have been dying to nuke someone. They could wipe britain off the face of the planet no problem.

[xplosiv]

The sailors and marines have been released!

Although they are released, President Ahmadinejad criticises the British govts actions on the matter - and still believes that they were tresspassing..
He repeated Iran's view that the British sailors and marines "invaded" Iranian waters, but said they were being released as a "gift" to Britain. Released/pardoned to mark the prophets birthday/Persian new year.

Iranian coast guards awarded with bravery medals for their actions (in siezing our navy personnel).

IMO, the gov't done bugger all in an attempt to get these people released. Whether they were in, or out of Iraqi waters is another matter. Just glad that things came to an end peacefully. This sums my feeling up on the matter..

"Whoever has been in the right or wrong, the whole thing has been a political mess, so let's just get them home,"
Links..
Yahoo News (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/itn/20070404/twl-british-navy-personnel-freed-41f21e0_1.html)

Edit - More here.. - http://newsbbc.co.uk/

[enigma]

Well to be fair we dont know whats went on behind the scenes and what full actions the gov were taking.

Its good to see there all alive, people were saying the other day thats only a few of them had actualy been shown in any of the footage of the troops and had started to specualate about it.

[Fallschirmjäger]

Well yes its been all sorted and out of the blue,they dragged it on and now end it like that,see the officer who caught them gets a medal for it too even.

[Moseman872{White Tiger}]

My thought on this is that The Brits were really in Iraqi waters, the Iranis captured them unjustly to see how the US and UK would react. Yes, the US and UK crumbled, and now Iran thinks we are weak, and stupid. They were probing to see how we would act. I wouldn't be surprised if we are at war with them some time in the near future.
Sounds kinda like Hitler to me. The US and UK appease Ahmadinijade(ahmadina-yabba-dabba-do) and he thinks we are weak. And ripe for the taking.

[Fallschirmjäger]

if they where doing this they would have not sent these guys and gals,more likely the SAS etc...,and them wondering into the wrong waters realy?.They snatched them when they got close,they said they will try something,talks etc.. to not have it happen again,as this is the 2nd time now.

[BlackDragon]

They want to be slapped very hard just USA government is being a bunch of wussies worrying about the upcoming campaign. Bleh I don't even like any of the candidates that are running.

[xplosiv]

:eek:

It has now been said that the 15 sailers and marines were infact 'bound and subjected to constant phychological pressure' by the Iranians. They were told that 'if they did not admit they had strayed into Iranian waters they would face seven years in prison.'

"I can clearly state we were 1.7 nautical miles from Iranian waters."
Read the article for more..
LINK* (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pressass/20070406/tuk-sailors-blindfolded-and-threatened-6323e80.html)

(Edit - IMO this just shows that some people shouldn't immediately jump to conclusions on things like this.)

[enigma]

The BBC reporter in Iran was just saying then that the Iranian Foriegn Office is stating that these comments coming from the marines and saliors have been under duress and that when they were taken away from Heathrow to an army base were they were sat down and told what to state in a public annocument.

.... *rolleyes*

[Fallschirmjäger]

I knew they must have done something to them,though i dont think it said actual torture,just the threats?,like 7 years in jail etc...

[DavidUpton]

Of course the sailors are clearly lying. They were forced to make that statement by the government against their own will. Iran is the one actually telling the truth.

Erm... I think not.

[CraigMouser]

its relatively simple,

Iranian president sucks, there economy went to shit, but the people like how he stands up to the UN, so if he doesnt, he becomes hated. So until he dies, he will stand up to us. Someday it may even bring on WW III

[JonasDahlin]

Who cares if they are lying, the whole thing was just a political stunt.

Nobody tells the truth nowdays anyway.

[scottdog]

its relatively simple,

Iranian president sucks, there economy went to shit, but the people like how he stands up to the UN, so if he doesnt, he becomes hated. So until he dies, he will stand up to us. Someday it may even bring on WW III

I don't really think that is the case...