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343Guiltyspark
04-02-2007, 01:12 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=445979&in_page_id=1770


"Some teachers are reluctant to cover the atrocity for fear of upsetting students whose beliefs include Holocaust denial."

"There is also resistance to tackling the 11th century Crusades - where Christians fought Muslim armies for control of Jerusalem - because lessons often contradict what is taught in local mosques."

DavidUpton
04-02-2007, 01:15 PM
"Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it."

Crazythumbs
04-02-2007, 03:06 PM
Those who don't believe the holocaust need to be smacked, so who really cares if you offend them.

Seriously this PC shit is turning people into blubbering vagina's

Cias
04-02-2007, 04:47 PM
i love how schools feel the need to filter the types of history being taught.. completely retarded.. if it friggin happened and was an important time in history it should be taught, i dont care who the **** it offends. i hate political correctness with a friggin passion. everyone is one big baby these days. absolutely pathetic, plus you know some Jewish people are going to get offended now that the holocaust isnt being taught in schools.

NicholasJohnson
04-02-2007, 04:52 PM
because lessons often contradict what is taught in local mosques."

Boo frickin hoo.

enigma
04-02-2007, 05:40 PM
"Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it."

QFT

This is a terrible path to go down ... the holocaust was not just the murder of 6-10 million people who were Jewish. It is also the mass murder or homosexuals, the infirm, Russians, Commusists, Poles, Slavs, Gypises .... its the murder of 17 million people.



whose beliefs include Holocaust denial.

My answer to this, and you wont see me say this very often, there fuckin retards who should grow the hell up and stop being bloody neo nazis! :mad:



... relgion and political correctness should not intervere with the school system, the kids should be taugh the facts simple as...

Hyperion2010
04-02-2007, 10:09 PM
WTF is humanity coming to.

Moseman872{White Tiger}
04-02-2007, 11:27 PM
The teachers probably doing it to be politicly correct. And in my book, i say political correctness can shove it.
If I wanna say "Merry Christmas" I"m not gonna say "Happy Holidays" just so I make one feels left out. I can say whatever I wanna say, when I wanna say it.

Chukada
04-02-2007, 11:51 PM
What the hell? Are we spawning little babies that grow up to 700 years old cyborgs that have the strength of an elephant but still cry because they have a "boo-boo"?!

Lt. Hanley
04-03-2007, 12:34 AM
Makes me sick. Since when did people start being born without spines? Fear of confrontation...please. Once again, the majority suffers for a few.

Katulobotomia
04-03-2007, 12:37 AM
Jeesus what bullshit.

Oh I shouldnt mention Jeesus, it might make unchristian people mad. This is so messy as a pig. Oh, that offends muslims too. Holy cow, Oh there goes India. What the hell am I supposed to...there goes Christians.

Oh great, this thing gets out of hand. Soon they will say the movie 300 is full of lies and it didnt happen...oh wait, Iran already did that. Oh mother, oh that made the orphans mad. Oh man, great now that makes feminists loose it.

What the hell is wrong with people???? Are we getting more inbred or what? We should really loose the sensitivity-skins and start TOLERATING. They cant really tell that Holocaust didnt happen cant they?

Appleskates
04-03-2007, 12:54 AM
I say tough shit for the Moslems/Muslims/anyone who denies it. If it happened, it happened. Whichever teachers are even hesitating should be beaten.

EDIT: Added "anyone who denies it" to be PC...

scottdog
04-03-2007, 04:41 PM
I wouldn't really steriotype it under muslims, because i know countless muslim people and they are very aware of the holocaust, and they do not preech about the holocaust in the mosques.
Just remember there are different sects of muslims just like christains.

"Moslems"

What do you mean by that? lol

lazlazlaz1
04-03-2007, 05:11 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=445979&in_page_id=1770


"Some teachers are reluctant to cover the atrocity for fear of upsetting students whose beliefs include Holocaust denial."

"There is also resistance to tackling the 11th century Crusades - where Christians fought Muslim armies for control of Jerusalem - because lessons often contradict what is taught in local mosques."

Well evolution is taught in schools, but my local church teaches creationism. But its not like that is going to change, and I don't really care either way if it does or not.
Perhaps I should start bombing people and make them fear me, then I can get what I want taught in our schools.

BlackDragon
04-05-2007, 05:00 PM
Yeah way 2 go liberalism ruining our kids by not teaching them something that is fact so we don't offend anyone. I am so sorry if it offends Muslims they came to our country and they can live with it or quit rising a stink about it. Its the Americans country not theirs!

colonal chaos
04-08-2007, 02:54 AM
Its the Americans country not theirs!
Quote for Truth.

NicholasJohnson
04-08-2007, 03:02 AM
Um...this is happening in Britain.

For now at least.

Sgt So and So
04-08-2007, 03:43 AM
Thank GOD it's not happening here in Vermont... I would die without the liberal, multi-viewed teachers we get here. Top-of-the-line teachers, and I love 'em.

Lord Justin
04-08-2007, 05:52 AM
Wait, doesn't England have anything like the Bill of Rights's "separation of church and state"? Idk, I just assumed...see, most of the time, this shit wouldn't be allowed in the U.S., because there are actual still a few logical people that realize that separation of church and state means separating church and state.


Jeesus what bullshit.

Oh I shouldnt mention Jeesus, it might make unchristian people mad. This is so messy as a pig. Oh, that offends muslims too. Holy cow, Oh there goes India. What the hell am I supposed to...there goes Christians.

Oh great, this thing gets out of hand. Soon they will say the movie 300 is full of lies and it didnt happen...oh wait, Iran already did that. Oh mother, oh that made the orphans mad. Oh man, great now that makes feminists loose it.


Hahah! Nice one. Pwned. One of the best quotes I've seen :p

It is getting out of hand. People need to sit down, take a breath, have a drink, and calm the fuck down. I mean...it really, really doesn't matter. This offends them or that offends those guys. In the end we all die. Why do humans waste their time with this bullshit!?

Ugh. Can't we all just get along?

chip360
04-08-2007, 06:18 AM
I am so sorry if it offends Muslims they came to our country and they can live with it or quit rising a stink about it. Its the Americans country not theirs!

I have to say, i agree with you that all of the politicaly correct shit is well... shit. But the "Muslims" living in America are American's too, thus it is their country too, and anyone else's that choose to live here. This is one of the costs of Freedom, we are all united, all "American"

Neo
04-08-2007, 12:08 PM
I understand about not wanting to offend anyone, and being politically correct and all that... but this is beyond a joke. At the end of the day, if you don't like Britain, fuck off to some other country. Why should we adapt to suit their likes and dislikes? If they want to live here, they're the ones that should adapt.

This is ridiculous.

DavidUpton
04-08-2007, 12:46 PM
Can't say things like that Neo, its offensive... :rolleyes:

xtc-alec
04-08-2007, 01:59 PM
whoah..whoah...whoah....there not gonna teach HISTORY....cause it might..offend....some people....my god...this is so f***** up.

I dont wanna learn anything about ww2 or ww1 because my country lost both of them and it offends me!
I dont wanna learn about the greek evolution of society cause i dont like greeks and it offends me....

Saden
04-08-2007, 03:08 PM
I'm all for teachers teaching everything, but you guys don't need to be like 'It's America, leave if you don't like it.' Because what happened to the country be-, wait nevermind, America is run by rednecks that make it almost impossible to become an American citizen. If I wanted to become an American, I would either have to marry another American, or get a greencard (Which is almost impossible I hear). Kthxbai

Cypher2009
04-08-2007, 05:15 PM
The worst thing to happen in the UK by a mile is "Political Correctness". Its a waste of f**king time and then all this bu**sh*t happens!

If it offends people, so the hell what? I think the Jews, Gypsis (Spelling), Blacks and Gays (to name a few) where a tad pi$$ed off when the Holocaust was around but they don't pi$$ and moan.

If you are Muslim and are reading this, or it offends others, I do apologise and will edit it is need be, but I want to go on record for saying:

"STFU AND DEAL WITH IT!!!" Life's a bitch and then we die. People get offended day in and day out. Don't like what we teach children in UK Schools, there are hundreds of other countries in the world, go there!!!

Ardito
04-09-2007, 12:43 AM
"Some teachers are reluctant to cover the atrocity for fear of upsetting students whose beliefs include Holocaust denial."

It's only in regard to Muslims. White people will still go to jail in for instance France and Germany for "denying the holocaust" if they question any part of the story being valid.

The Muslims are in Europe only because no one dared saying no to immigration out of fear of being branded a Nazi. The wrong-view-of-history "hate laws" were instituted for the same reason.

Oh the irony, the irony...

Jensen
04-09-2007, 01:14 AM
True Ardito!

scottdog
04-09-2007, 04:05 AM
It's only in regard to Muslims. White people will still go to jail in for instance France and Germany for "denying the holocaust" if they question any part of the story being valid.

The Muslims are in Europe only because no one dared saying no to immigration out of fear of being branded a Nazi. The wrong-view-of-history "hate laws" were instituted for the same reason.

Oh the irony, the irony...

il agree with that, but i don't like it when people say "They only get those rights because they'll bomb us".

Gien
04-09-2007, 04:19 AM
Religion and school don't mix, at least in America we still have what resembles a wall of separation between church and state....Although its just a few bricks on top of each other right now...

chip360
04-09-2007, 05:59 AM
I'm all for teachers teaching everything, but you guys don't need to be like 'It's America, leave if you don't like it.' Because what happened to the country be-, wait nevermind, America is run by rednecks that make it almost impossible to become an American citizen. If I wanted to become an American, I would either have to marry another American, or get a greencard (Which is almost impossible I hear). Kthxbai

Lol, it's not impossible for Candians, you guys are cool and ure welcome to crash here whenever u want. However, Its nearly impossible for Mexicans (to get a greencard)

The problem is, there are so many Mexican families (who have it bad in Mexico) that flock across the boarders illegally, that the gov. has almost completely closed off legal registration in the Us to them ( distibution of green cards)
Not to mention, many of these families (that can barely speak a shred of English) are required to take an exam before they are granted citizenship. It may be very simple (actually it probably has questions about American history I couldnt even answer) but I'm sure its very intimidating for those that dont even know what they are doing.

Thanato
04-09-2007, 06:26 AM
Religion and school don't mix, at least in America we still have what resembles a wall of separation between church and state....Although its just a few bricks on top of each other right now...

I believe some schools are teaching Creationism in science class. . . now that's just scary.

Also then there is the US president who is on record for saying that 'god' told him to attack Iraq. . .

~Thanato

Chu [3rd ID]
04-16-2007, 03:07 AM
I've heard the Iranian President doesn't think the Holocaust happened.

Gien
04-16-2007, 06:38 AM
I believe some schools are teaching Creationism in science class. . . now that's just scary.

Also then there is the US president who is on record for saying that 'god' told him to attack Iraq. . .

~Thanato

Heh Creatonism is probably the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. If you believe your God planted bones in the Earth to test your faith you're either in denial or your God has self-esteem issues.

Total_Overkill
04-16-2007, 08:44 AM
Heh Creatonism is probably the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. If you believe your God planted bones in the Earth to test your faith you're either in denial or your God has self-esteem issues.

I'll second that... i mean, i was fine with how things used to be, either fact or faith... this mixing stuff is scaring me, because it voids both :confused:

The day Harvard inducts Creationism is the day...
uh.... i dont wanna spoil it :D

Sgt So and So
04-16-2007, 12:40 PM
I'll second that... i mean, i was fine with how things used to be, either fact or faith... this mixing stuff is scaring me, because it voids both :confused:

The day Harvard inducts Creationism is the day...
uh.... i dont wanna spoil it :D

Hey, hey, let's keep this thread to Holocaust-dropping, not religion-bashing.;)

enigma
04-16-2007, 07:07 PM
Yea open up your own topic to discuss that please ... (of course if that doesnt brake the rules of this section of the forum)

lazlazlaz1
04-16-2007, 08:48 PM
Heh Creatonism is probably the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. If you believe your God planted bones in the Earth to test your faith you're either in denial or your God has self-esteem issues.

There are scientifically valid explanations to that from a creationists point of view.

I'll agree, its not wise to force religion in every school in a nation which is not mostly one religion. However, having set religious schools is good as it gives the option to parents on where to send their children.

But dropping the Holocaust is not about religion, it is about correct historical factual teaching. It is the same with the crusades. They happened. Get over it. If you are ashamed of what has happened to your country in the past, then try to make your country better in the present.