War Video with Sountrack - NSFW

[Saden]

Not safe for work, or anywhere with children, or sensative people.

There be blood and gore and stuff.

You've been warned.



Get down with the sickness in Iraq.



http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c0f_1176669593

It's crazy.

[Total_Overkill]

I believe that made CNN once...

Dark/Sick/Twisted Comment of the day...

BANG!!

HEADSHOT

[Saden]

Yea, the shooting-through-door part was pretty cool, especially when you get to see the results! :D The song was awesome too.

[Zip]

Just out of interest how gory is this from 1-10?

How badly do the people and the bodys get damaged in this?

And what actually happens in the video?

[Timblesink]

Just out of interest how gory is this from 1-10?

How badly do the people and the bodys get damaged in this?

And what actually happens in the video?

Yeah, I'd like to know too before watching... Y'know, I'm a pussy :rolleyes:

[jm.]

how is this video 'awesome'?

[Saden]

Because it is.

It's not very very gory, there are only about I think 3 scenes where you actually see any dead humans, but one of them shows a head that has been blown off, so I would probably have to rate that about 7-8/10 in terms of the gore in it. Basically, it just has a sort of jazzy version of the 'Get down with the sickness' song, and it just shows some combat scenes, buildings getting blown up, and soldiers running in, throwing flashbangs everywhere. It's not really awesome, lol, It's just kinda cool.

[wfcxairborne]

You don't see anybody get hurt really, it's just them like shooting things and going into buildings. At one part though you see a head on the ground. I'd rank it 2/10 for gore just cause the head.

[C.H.O]

Any videos of the CF over there?

[Katulobotomia]

Does anyone else think those werent real soldiers? Since if they were.......man I am NOT impressed with the training they give to the troops. They didnt really differ from the "rebels" that much in terms of skill.....atleast in my eye.

In my army they teach us to shoot EVERY SINGLE shot as perfectly aimed and controlled. No auto-fires either....just single ones or bursts. Some may call that (the video firing) suppressive-fire...I call that ´spray and pray´. Everyone can shoot a rifle on auto, but takes a trained soldier to take a perfectly aimed snap-shot at a person 150m away and hit that 10cm area in 2-3 seconds , when weapon not ready.

These guys were spraying bullets everywhere, like some wild cowboys...and where were the dissapline (typo?) every army should have? These boys looked like they were on a sunday party with their friends with guns and not in ARMY.

EDIT: I dont think I would label this as awesome either....just some random war/conflict footage with a soundtrack.

[Saden]

Does anyone else think those werent rael soldiers? Since if they were.......man I am NOT impressed with the training they give to the troops. They didnt really differ from the "rebels" that much in terms of skill.....atleast in my eye.

In my army they teach us to shoot EVERY SINGLE shot as perfectly aimed and controlled. No auto-fires either....just single ones or bursts.

These guys were spraying bullets everywhere, like some wild cowboys...and where were the dissapline (typo?) every army should have? These boys looked like they were on a sunday party with their friends with guns and not in ARMY.

If you are in a room, or a small building, with a bunch of fucking terrorists, I'm sure that you'd rather put 15 bullets very quickly into them, rather than shooting one by one. And when they shoot through the door, after they open it, you see a dead fucker ready for anal under the stairs, so it would have to be 3/10 lol. The head was funny, I wonder how it got there rofl.

[Katulobotomia]

If you are in a room, or a small building, with a bunch of fucking terrorists, I'm sure that you'd rather put 15 bullets very quickly into them, rather than shooting one by one. And when they shoot through the door, after they open it, you see a dead fucker ready for anal under the stairs, so it would have to be 3/10 lol. The head was funny, I wonder how it got there rofl.

Well thats where we differ : ) They were basicly spraying the rooms and buildings with random fire....which in my army is labeled as a lack of training/skill. The trainers in our army even make jokes about those types of methods to clear/raid buildings that those guys use over there. Sure...in urban areas or in closed or small spaces a burst/auto is better, but that wasnt even auto.....that was....shooting things blindly and hope hitting something before they hit you.

In here we only shoot when we know we can hit (even the MG´s are supposed to only fire on short bursts and aim every shot LOL)...OR EVEN SEE THE ENEMY. Thats the reason why Finnish soldiers were getting a lot more accomplishments than Soviets in Winter-War. We used more precise fire than the soviets and thats why there is a saying here "ten soviets for one Fin".

The only place where we are ALLOWED...yes in our army they even order these kind of acts...to use full auto is when the enemy is so close we CANT miss and if there is too many of them and the only resort is to die or shoot every single one you have in your mag.

[Sgt So and So]

Well thats where we differ : ) They were basicly spraying the rooms and buildings with random fire....which in my army is labeled as a lack of training/skill. The trainers in our army even make jokes about those types of methods to clear/raid buildings that those guys use over there. Sure...in urban areas or in closed or small spaces a burst/auto is better, but that wasnt even auto.....that was....shooting things blindly and hope hitting something before they hit you.

In here we only shoot when we know we can hit (even the MG´s are supposed to only fire on short bursts and aim every shot LOL)...OR EVEN SEE THE ENEMY. Thats the reason why Finnish soldiers were getting a lot more accomplishments than Soviets in Winter-War. We used more precise fire than the soviets and thats why there is a saying here "ten soviets for one Fin".

The only place where we are ALLOWED...yes in our army they even order these kind of acts...to use full auto is when the enemy is so close we CANT miss and if there is too many of them and the only resort is to die or shoot every single one you have in your mag.

They might be Blackwater. You know, US Mercenaries. They're all over the place in Iraq and Afghanistan nowadays, cocky bastards.:p

[Zip]

Is this a Little bit more like your training Katulobotomia?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=acCvP9q9qlU

I think these guys are new recuits as rifle men and have only just come out of basic training,

Owell, tis the only video i could find of them inside a building.

[Faunze]

I don't like the way they are spraying random buildings. Running into rooms and shooting everything that moves. I don't wanna know how many civilians are getting killed by American Soldiers. British army take alot of time making sure it's only insurgents inside.

[Saden]

How do you know that they haven't checked the building. It's only like 15 second clips. And they wouldn't waste that much firepower on just random buildings. There had to have been a reason.

[Katulobotomia]

Is this a Little bit more like your training Katulobotomia?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=acCvP9q9qlU

I think these guys are new recuits as rifle men and have only just come out of basic training,

Owell, tis the only video i could find of them inside a building.

I would say...no. And only a small part of our force is trained (good) for urban fighting, since most of the combat here were in forests/wild. We are trained to stay hidden, attack with precision, effectively and fast....then disappear to the wild again. Every shot is trained to be either a direct hit or your as good as dead. No spraying....not even with an MG...and if someone here sprays...even with an MG that is laughed upon and is considered as a rookie mistake. Bursts are ok with an MG....and very rare with the RK (assault rifle).

This is more of what our force is trained to do
http://youtube.com/watch?v=alB_2welQIs&mode=related&search=
http://youtube.com/watch?v=g_eBmiDeftw&mode=related&search=

And in this you will see how we fight urban style....at about 3.00 the urban part starts so you might want to rewind a little to three minutes.http://youtube.com/watch?v=pR9coObmfQY&mode=related&search=
Note that they do not spray the room full of hardware and hope they killed everyone inside including possible civilians.....they did make mistakes though...like going through the door before the room was secure. (note, I am a Jaeger)

EDIT: OH And here is some Finnish ownage :D http://youtube.com/watch?v=NYVWc0w-ZXY&mode=related&search=
This is how we deal with unwanted attention.....we blow the whole goddamn horizon in smoke ^_^....LONG LIVE FINNISH ARTILLERY...the finest in Europe....and I would say in the world :D but thats just me. Just listen the sweet sound of 155mm rounds hit the ground....music in my ears

[wfcxairborne]

Good vids, thanks.

[Katulobotomia]

Good vids, thanks.

np mate : )

And if you listen carefully in the artillery video at 0:55 you hear a VERY fast battery of fire being unloaded and hitting seconds later at the target, so beautiful. And when you know each artillery can only fire ones in 15 seconds it means there were a whole brigade of cannons:)

EDIT: actually the sounds at 0:55 are the actual rounds hitting, my bad. You can actually see them explode if you look carefully.

And for you some tank fans...the Finnish Leopardi...the best tank in the world. Literally.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nvT_RqxyCxU&mode=related&search=
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1ZSEtd_iTQ0&mode=related&search=
http://youtube.com/watch?v=A-9JoF5o5B4&mode=related&search=
and other Leopard 2´s
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KxdEtyxa7Ao&mode=related&search=
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uUoX-Gqd35o&mode=related&search=

[wfcxairborne]

Here's some real good vid's of British SAS. Enjoy!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_VktQBj1Dm4
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mjvRejhSdhg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6As30v_jhXI
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Pai9U8QYnZY

Bravo Two Zero:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qd7vOmH1k5I
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HHRmPET2CPE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=z94CgZeOu2g
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gKEL_tw1exY
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3Qae0GZl9Z0

Lot's more on youtube.

[Saden]

RAHHHH

Can we PLEASE stop raping my thread? Please?

[Minicow]

I don't know if I'd call it "awesome." Though it was...I hate to use "entertaining," but I guess it was somewhat entertaining.

Katulobotomia, most of them are Iraqi Security Forces. ISF don't wear camouflaged helmets helmets most of the time, for ID purposes, I'd guess. All the soldiers in the video with green helmets are probably ISF. And ISF troops are still fairly poorly trained.

PS: Oh, and no offense, but Finland hasn't been in a war very recently. (Erm, it hasn't, right?) The majority of people seem to have a hard time taking careful fire when they're actually being shot back at. You don't really know how modern Finnish troops would do at controlling their fire in combat.

[Saden]

During the raid part, where you see flashbangs going everywhere, and people cheering, I'm pretty sure those were US forces or contractors.

[wfcxairborne]

Lol. Raping the thread, sorry bout that.

[Minicow]

Well there's clearly a couple Americans there, as you can see some US flags. But most of them look, for lack of a better term, somewhat cobbled together, and have green helmets and AK's. I still say they're mixed US/ISF troops, as contractors and professional soldiers aren't mixed together, to my knowledge.

[Saden]

Well, they're not mixed together, because they're not commanded by the army. They're commanded by the superiors of the company they work for. But they can join the US soldiers whenever they want.

[PhantomZero]

You also need to remember that in the first video they arent special forces, just grunts. It would be cool to see a large scale MOUT with different countries of the world, Canada/USA/Britain etc. could make it an olympics-like competition.

[Saden]

Canada would win :D

[Katulobotomia]

PS: Oh, and no offense, but Finland hasn't been in a war very recently. (Erm, it hasn't, right?) The majority of people seem to have a hard time taking careful fire when they're actually being shot back at. You don't really know how modern Finnish troops would do at controlling their fire in combat.
True, its been roughly little over 60 years since Soviets tried to take over Finland. But there are Finnish troops all over the place too, mostly in peacekeeping forces etc...etc and they see action from time to time.

[Zip]

Katulobotomia are you from Finland or Russia and what army are you in?

[Katulobotomia]

Katulobotomia are you from Finland or Russia and what army are you in?

I´m in Finnish Defence Force.

Jaeger: I operate mainly the 81mm-KRH or work as a normal Jaeger, or even as a communication-guy (the guy who carries that heavy radio equipment around).

I was supposed to be put into sniper training or something similar, because I proved to be extremely skilled in shooting. I scored the best scores at training and finished as the best in the whole Easter-Defence-Force-Area. I also were honoured with a diploma in shooting. And was ranked as the best in a field exercise, I even hit a sniper over 200-300m away, with a single shot in less than 2-3 seconds, without changing sight settings...the officers mouth flew open as he watched next to me :-D

But it was too late for me to be assinged as anything else, so they just had to leave me in my current assingment.

I wouldnt really be talking this much about Finnish army if I were in a Russian army wouldnt I ;)

I have also thought about joining the peacekeeping forces. Now when I don´t have a girl waiting me at home anymore I dont really have much to loose anyway.

Some basic KRH action.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GK2R4xrXCn4&mode=related&search=
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cZAVLoiYy2w&mode=related&search=

EDIT: But anyway.....I kind of lost from topic.

[wfcxairborne]

Canada would win :D

I second this.

[Saden]

Katulobotomia, could you please take this elsewhere lol?

[Dutchlike]

Lol, dude that was awesome!

[BillSpargo]

Katulobotomia, could you please take this elsewhere lol?
It seems people didn't find the video you linked so awesome, so they tried to bring this thread a little closer to a level of awesome to which you originally ascribed it.:p

[enigma]

I think this thread has grounds for being the most retarded thread on the net :p

[NicholasJohnson]

The green helmeted guys are Iraqi army, you can see AKs being wielded by them. Most of the people in this video are Iraqi with the exception of the American advisors (i.e. on-the-job trainers) and the few Americans you see walking on the streets by themselves.


They might be Blackwater. You know, US Mercenaries. They're all over the place in Iraq and Afghanistan nowadays, cocky bastards

Aren't most of those private security people? I.E. VIP guards, etc


I don't like the way they are spraying random buildings. Running into rooms and shooting everything that moves. I don't wanna know how many civilians are getting killed by American Soldiers. British army take alot of time making sure it's only insurgents inside.

That is how urban combat has always been fought, the British army is no exception. How do you know that they "take a lot of time?" On the other hand, how do you know that the soldiers(sorry, bloodthirsty Yanks ;) ) in this video did not "take a lot of time?" You are making a bunch of assumptions because of a few seconds in a heavily edited video :rolleyes: If they did take a lot of time I doubt that they would have added all of that into this type of video. I recall a video of Canadians in Afghanistan and some guy was making the same thinly disguised arguement about them firing into buildings on full auto and how Canada kills "civilians" (who happened to be wielding AKs and RPKs)

For the guy who wanted a vid of Canadians:

Number 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2r3C0PJ1LM)

Number 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaC-w2dIxZc)

[Saden]

Aren't most of those private security people? I.E. VIP guards, etc


Nope, they're not private security people, they're private armies.

[Dutchlike]

Tee hee, the song made it funny :o

[NicholasJohnson]

Nope, they're not private security people, they're private armies.

Um, no.

The Mahdi army is a "private army."

The bogeymen of Blackwater provide security for civilian contractors (i.e. construction) who do not have military protection. Are you aware of the sheer number of civilian contractors employed over there? The eeevil Blackwater also serve as bodyguards for VIPs. :eek:

[JonasDahlin]

The most disturbing thing with this video is the american soldier who is smiling att the blown off head. How can that possible be funny?

[|Crimson|]

If you see it a lot, I guess you get used to it.

[JonasDahlin]

Maybe you get used to it, but you sure as hell don't find it "funny".
If you're not a complete psycho that is.

[Saden]

Blackwater kills terrorists. Have you seen the documentary? Or seen any video clips of them? They're usually on buildings killing terrorists, and probably civillians, and not defending construction workers.

[enigma]

How do you know there terrorists and not god fearing Iraqi patriots? :p



Maybe you get used to it, but you sure as hell don't find it "funny".
If you're not a complete psycho that is.

People react differently to situations. You stick a knife in 100 peoples faces ... a hell load of them are going to start laughing with nerves etc

Human emotions are not black and white, i.e. he laughed at X therefore hes messed up in the head.

;)

[Volvulus]

Katulobotomia, just remeber, you shoot at targets that don't shoot back.

[JonasDahlin]

How do you know there terrorists and not god fearing Iraqi patriots? :p

Everybody knows that the terrorists are the good guys, I mean look at V for vendetta :P





People react differently to situations. You stick a knife in 100 peoples faces ... a hell load of them are going to start laughing with nerves etc

Human emotions are not black and white, i.e. he laughed at X therefore hes messed up in the head. ;)

Of course physical and psychological stress might cause things like that. But no normal person would laught att something horrific as that. If people really thought that death was something funny then we would be having comedy shows about schoolshootings and 9/11

[Saden]

I think enigma meant that if you stabbed 100 people in the face, alot of them will start laughing because you punctured nerves that cause that.

[aag567]

Olympics for armies? I think the most interesting competition would be the way Marines trains snipers: make a ghillie suit, sneak within 200 yards of observers with binocs, fire a blank, and escape unseen. First person to do so wins!

[enigma]

I think enigma meant that if you stabbed 100 people in the face, alot of them will start laughing because you punctured nerves that cause that.

erm no...

If you were to threaten 100 people they wouldnt all act the same, alot of them will start laughing, some will clamp up, some will get violent, some will start crying etc etc

Btw nerves just carry messages along to muscles, the brain tells them (the muscles) what to do ;)

The same goes into any situation. For example one of my teams clinets died the other day, i got the news and was told to pass it on to the others once they got into work.
Me i never met the person so was affected by the news and set thinking how i could present the death in a humerous light to the others.
They had infact already been told and one of them had been thinking the same why i been.
Doesnt mean were messed up.

Same applies here, who knows why the guy smiled/laughed at a human head on the floor, you just cant make assumptions that there mentally unbalanced.

[Zip]

I would say...no. And only a small part of our force is trained (good) for urban fighting, since most of the combat here were in forests/wild.

I just saw this part of your post so thats why i have brought it up.


You have been complaning about the way the US and other nations are going into Urban warfare and storming buildings firing a lot of bullets?

Then you say that the finnish army doesnt really get trained in Urban warfare very much.
So no offence or anything but maybe the US and other countrys have had much more experiance in urban warfare then the Finnish army and from that they know what is the best tactic to get in and clear out the building because they all ahve been trained to do it?