Should Marijuana be legalized?

[Saden]

Well? I don't smoke the stuff, and I don't plan to, but do you guys think it should be legal (In North America).

[Byron]

no, well first off - hardly any conservative people smoke pot - and I absolutely hate liberals so therefore you are on my shit list from now on:D - all because you even thought about the stuff - I dont care if you don't smoke it (jp)...but no, we discuss this in school a lot - (i live in a very liberal part of california) if pot were legalized the governemnt would put taxes on it and limit the distribution of its throughout the states.

[wfcxairborne]

I love this topic.:p I really have no preferance of if it should be lagalised or not. My sister on the other hand, a huge green peace kind of person, wants it to be lagalised.

[CBowling]

I think it should be legalized.

Why?

Because I think the only people who would do it when it is legalized, are the people who will do it now. You probably will not see a huge increase in numbers of marijuana users when it is legalized. And we can always put restrictions, like don't operate machinery, like cars and etc.


I also think it should be taxed. Why? That is more money the government can use to put into other areas such as education, defense, etc. So what if the local drug dealers lose money? Oh wait, thats a bonus!


I don't smoke Marijuana, never have, never will. But I think there will be a lot more benefits for all if they legalize and tax it.

[Thanato]

I know people who smoke it. . . Hell I live in the area that produces most of it for the GTA.

It has ruined alot of lives. They just become stupid. . . some of them were good people, good friends, now they are just idiots. Spend all their time smokin the dope.

Tho I do know some people who do it in moderation and it barely effects their life. . .

Decriminalize small amounts but do not legalize it.

~Thanato

[Cias]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6636864237843597684


if they legalize it more people will hurt themselves in the dojo :( and that wont be fun for anyone

[Zip]

No.

I too like Thanato live in an Area where a s**t load of its grown and every second house someone is smoking it.

Its not good i say, They all turn in to a bunch of f*ck heads and it rerally destroys there lives

[DarkCanuck]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6636864237843597684


if they legalize it more people will hurt themselves in the dojo :( and that wont be fun for anyone

oh man that commercial is great! most of the anit-pot commercials are really bad. In a way I think that the commercial above, may actually promote pot in a way.

[CBowling]

Most of your arguments are based on what people around you currently do.


So...if they keep it illegal, those people dont get any better. If they legalize it, those people stay the same.


Either way, the people don't get better. Might as well tax it, make it harder for them to get(because it will probably be more expensive if its taxed), and make some profit in order to boost other parts of our economy.

Marijuana isn't good for you, but studies have shown that cigarette smoke and alcohol can have more adverse effects on you. So, in my opinion, either make alcohol or cigarettes illegal(which wont happen) or legalize marijuana. At least in small portions as stated above.

As I also said earlier, I doubt that many many people will flock to it. Once its legalized, the novelty and risk of it kind of disappears, which is partly a reason why people do it, at least some of them.

[|:XAS:| Bravo]

Yeah say it were legalized. People would feel no moral wrong in doing it.
Kids would freely do it when their parents said no, and they wouldn't feel guilty about it afterward. Pot is essentially the same thing as drinking. An avid drinker is reckless, a pot smoker worse. Any drugs for that matter. If they want the same high effect they might as well sniff a marker. That "high" is their brain melting.

Seriously, "Green peace"? Okay let's say we just end all wars and everyone is peaceful. What happens when a pothead decides to take over the world? Well Hitler and Tojo to you. And giving them another joint is not gonna help solve the problem, it'll only escalate it.

[CBowling]

Kids smoking it?

I said legalize it, not give it to everyone. There is a difference between legalize it and realeasing it to those say, 21 and up, or 18 and up, and just giving to everyone.

I am basically saying treat it the same way as alcohol.

And many people would feel moral wrong in doing it. I am underage, I don't drink. Why? Because its illegal for my age, and I know the effects it can have on me. Same with pot, same with cigarettes. I don't like the idea of something controlling my mind.

Many others are like that as well.

[ShaunCowdell]

I seem to be the only one that has smoke marijuana here. In saying that, I had no problems. I smoked it with two other mates with three sobre ones looking after us. I had great fun.
Everytime I smoke it, I ALWAYS make sure there are designated watch dogs to keep an eye on me. Much like when you're drinking.

Marijuana IS a drug! Thus it should be treated as one.
You drink too much booze and you can die.
Smoke too many cigarettes and you will die.
If you go overboard on the dope... You're a freaken idiot.

It's a recreational drug. I know people that smoke it everyday and have no problems with it.
And I know/knew people that smoked it everyday and went insane. (NOTE that is only one person...)

It's VERY dependent on the person.

I don't really care if it's legalized or not... It's not like it's hard to get now.

[Dutchlike]

It's an art to overdose on Weed, seriously no-one has ever (recorded) overdosed on weed.
A list of the positive,neutral and negative effects can be found here. (http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_effects.shtml)
Well, i think they should just legalize it for the ones who want to smoke it.
I don't think it's too bad if you do it once in a while, if you space it out (pun not intended) enough you should'nt notice to much of it, i think.
Well, i'm not planning on doing it though.
And if they legalize it, they should put an age restriction on it...like 22 or something, just so that the ones planning on doing it...are smart enough, to use it "wiseley".

(hehe, this made me think of "Tenacious D in the pick of destiny" : "Patience young grassmoker". )

[ShaunCowdell]

I want to point out I have only had it thrice in my life. Spaced out by more than 6months each.
Thought I'd add that. :p

[[FFTF]Eurofighter]

Pot is essentially the same thing as drinking. An avid drinker is reckless, a pot smoker worse. Any drugs for that matter. If they want the same high effect they might as well sniff a marker. That "high" is their brain melting.

Why is a pot smoker worse? Alcohol kills way more people compared to pot. Alcoholists get way more dangerous and aggresive when they're ''using''. Pot usually makes people happy or chilled.
And I believe sniffin a marker is considered as a hard drug not a soft drug like marijuana.
If I listen to your arguments i believe you would like alcohol to be banned too.


Okay let's say we just end all wars and everyone is peaceful. What happens when a pothead decides to take over the world? Well Hitler and Tojo to you.

you end all wars but a pothead takes over the world? How would he do that without war? lol hypnotize?

[Zip]

Eurofighter;68612']Why is a pot smoker worse? Alcohol kills way more people compared to pot. Alcoholists get way more dangerous and aggresive when they're ''using''. Pot usually makes people happy or chilled.
And I believe sniffin a marker is considered as a hard drug not a soft drug like marijuana.
If I listen to your arguments i believe you would like alcohol to be banned too.


you end all wars but a pothead takes over the world? How would he do that without war? lol hypnotize?



Ban Alchole too then, I dont care, I hate the stuff:p :D

[CBowling]

In the immortal words of Robin Williams


"Marijuana a performance enhancing drug? The only way its performing enhancing is if there is a big hershey bar at the end of a course"



Hence, a potsmoker wouldn't take over the world. They are not motivated to do much more then sit around, and chill.


Yes, I know I used a quote from a comedian, but I think it sums up the point well enough :-P

[JonasDahlin]

Raven I didn't know we had an pothead on the team ;)

[Dutchlike]

Noticed how creative he solves problems! :D


(Just kiddin, don't know if you guy's even have problems :p )

[[FFTF]Eurofighter]

ever wondered why the hulk is green? :rolleyes:

[Appleskates]

if pot were legalized the governemnt would put taxes on it and limit the distribution of its throughout the states.

I never thought of it that way.... HEAVILY TAX marijuana so that conservatives/libertarians can be happy with a non-increase in income taxes and the socialists/liberals will be happy with the bonus dollars to the social programs, and the users will be happy that they won't be arrested. It's the perfect plan! Of course, it should be illegal to drive, or basically do anything which could harm someone. Basically, make their ability to smoke and get to any parties SEVERELY limited.

I personally don't smoke, but I figure the whole debate about increasing taxes will die.

[Saden]

Maybe they should just make designated smoking areas such as in Amsterdam, except when you want to leave, you need to be checked to see if you are high, and if you are, they either call a cab for you, or just tell you to wait until you aren't high anymore. And maybe limit the amount that is allowed in any household at any given time.

[ShaunCowdell]

Raven I didn't know we had an pothead on the team ;)

Oh god I knew this would happen! :p

[Byron]

tsk tsk tsk, hippies galore lol joking. I completely disagree with smoking the wacky tobaccie, and believe it shouldnt be legalized

[ShaunCowdell]

http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/66676/About_20_000_Marchers_Smoke_Up_For_Freer_Pot_Laws

Meh.

[Dutchlike]

hehe, Bongs not bombs :p

[Jensen]

Anyone in possession of that sh*t should be sent to prison for the longest period of time possible!

[ShaunCowdell]

Jensen can you please explain why?
Simply because your argument doesn't hold any point. :p

[NicholasJohnson]

We found Raven's Japanese alter-ego:

Click Here (http://engrish.com/detail.php?imagename=marijuana-girl.jpg&category=Clothing&date=2006-10-20)

And Jensen, are you calling for life in prison? That is the maximum sentence (unless you want pot smokers dead or something...)

[ShaunCowdell]

Why did I participate in this thread?...

[scottdog]

I'v had pot once and never again.I might of "ODed" or as they call it greened out, i vomitted and could hardly move and my throat was dry as heck.

[Cias]

im surprised more people havent posted the hilarious anti pot commercials lol

personally i dont do the stuff but have nothing against anyone who does, as long as they arent crazy and are high 24/7. cause then they are just retarded and cant even hold a normal conversation at any point

[-X-Sublime]

I am smokeing my pipe right now as i type this and i can say pot does not destroy the person, just if that person thrives on being lazy. I smoke it almost every day but i also work 6 days a week 8 hours a day but i work for myself and i can be smokeing most the time i work so i guess its just pots alright if you dont let it control you

[JonasDahlin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nHcLazrtMs.

Here's one for you Cias :)

[Sargeant]

Some of the posts here to be rediculous...

Anyway, I found an interesting documentary, though it is long. About an hour 20.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5472332679367311144&q=documentary+grass&hl=en

[Jensen]

I am smokeing my pipe right now as i type this and i can say pot does not destroy the person, just if that person thrives on being lazy. I smoke it almost every day but i also work 6 days a week 8 hours a day but i work for myself and i can be smokeing most the time i work so i guess its just pots alright if you dont let it control you

Um.....i do not believe that you could quit even if you wanted too. Since i have heard so many people who smoke and does drugs and they say they "can quit whenever i want to". And when i challenge them, they just can't:eek:

[JonasDahlin]

Here Jensen, have a doobie :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wixlfPnxJTo

[Dutchlike]

Jensen, it depends on the way consume it.

[CraigMouser]

I'm too lazy to read all the other posts, but here is the way it should be flat out.

NO IT SHOULD NOT BE LEGALIZED!

But people do it anyways so you might as well....
- if we give into one law because people do it, it just gives incentive for them to break other laws in hopes of getting it changed.

2nd, It does ruin peoples lives, People go on to try harder and worse stuff and end up ruining there lives. Happened to my best friend, or should i say ex-best friend. He is now expelled from school, moved out from his parents, has no job, not going to college, and overall is a huge fuckup.

[Sargeant]

Because we all know potsmokers will try and get jaywalking and forgery legalized...

Anyway, I say legalize...or at least decriminalize.

[Saden]

I'm too lazy to read all the other posts, but here is the way it should be flat out.

NO IT SHOULD NOT BE LEGALIZED!

But people do it anyways so you might as well....
- if we give into one law because people do it, it just gives incentive for them to break other laws in hopes of getting it changed.

2nd, It does ruin peoples lives, People go on to try harder and worse stuff and end up ruining there lives. Happened to my best friend, or should i say ex-best friend. He is now expelled from school, moved out from his parents, has no job, not going to college, and overall is a huge fuckup.

Well, there's nothing stopping that now, if the goverment legalized and taxed it, the money from the taxes would of been able to be used for various things like schools, hospitals, and even rehab centers. It would be impossible to stop people from moving on to harder things.

[Sgt So and So]

Well, there's nothing stopping that now, if the goverment legalized and taxed it, the money from the taxes would of been able to be used for various things like schools, hospitals, and even rehab centers. It would be impossible to stop people from moving on to harder things.

Hell, its pretty hard to stop them now! I knew someone who got on pot, and now he's in rehab for crack and alcoholism.:(

[CraigMouser]

we should just make the punishment for getting caught with drugs worse

possesion-5 year minimum, no bail, no parole

dealing- death. no matter what.

see how drug rates do then!

[scottdog]

we should just make the punishment for getting caught with drugs worse

possesion-5 year minimum, no bail, no parole

dealing- death. no matter what.

see how drug rates do then!

They still get dealed, just the price will go up alot, so it will become dealed from the poor bought from the rich . And if you think having these unjust sentences, how do you think the main streem teenager will come out of jail 5 years later?

The rate of which dope is consumed might decrease, but people will find easier more harmful ways of getting high e.g petrol and croming.

[Saden]

Um.....i do not believe that you could quit even if you wanted too. Since i have heard so many people who smoke and does drugs and they say they "can quit whenever i want to". And when i challenge them, they just can't:eek:

Maybe because they don't want to lol. You can't just challenge somebody, they need to do it by themselves.

[herman]

we should just make the punishment for getting caught with drugs worse

possesion-5 year minimum, no bail, no parole

dealing- death. no matter what.

see how drug rates do then!

you are a fucking idiot. that would solve absolutely nothing. you are ignorant.


decriminalization is the way to go. they should just take your stash if you are caught with it, and maybe a 500 dollar fine if you are caught dealing. its not bad.


oh ya, medical marijuana ftw.. i smoke whenever i get a migraineand it goes right away.

[herman]

Um.....i do not believe that you could quit even if you wanted too. Since i have heard so many people who smoke and does drugs and they say they "can quit whenever i want to". And when i challenge them, they just can't:eek:

they "cant" quit because they dont want to. it is fun and most people keep doing it, not because they are physically addicted, but because it is something the enjoy.

[herman]

I'v had pot once and never again.I might of "ODed" or as they call it greened out, i vomitted and could hardly move and my throat was dry as heck.

probably just got some bad bud, you should try it again, but make sure you have some real nice dank.

Overdosing is impossible with weed, by the way. Its easier to OD off of caffeine.

[JonasDahlin]

Nice tripple post there herman, try using the edit button :)

[scottdog]

oh ya, medical marijuana ftw.. i smoke whenever i get a migraineand it goes right away.

Heh i get migraines alot, i might look into medical marijuana.

[Valliko]

Medical, yes. Public, no!

Why? Because Marijuana is not as potent as alcohol. Simply, a normal person don't drink before he goes to work, cause of he would simply lost all his control. But if you would smoke Marijuana, maybe you could handle work. But not in a long shot! And btw it would give a more liberal sight on other drugs just becuse if they legalized one drug, why not another drug. That's my opinoin. And eh, sorry for my English if you dont understand me very well :)

[Fernando]

Medical, yes. Public, no!

Why? Because Marijuana is not as potent as alcohol. Simply, a normal person don't drink before he goes to work, cause of he would simply lost all his control. But if you would smoke Marijuana, maybe you could handle work. But not in a long shot! And btw it would give a more liberal sight on other drugs just becuse if they legalized one drug, why not another drug. That's my opinoin. And eh, sorry for my English if you dont understand me very well :)

i think the same :D

[Lordwatson]

I am conservative, get baked all the time and score top marks in all my exams, so yeah legalise it. Nothing beats a joint!

[ShaunCowdell]

Documentary about whether things would would get better or worse if drugs was legalized.
Many proffessional opinions on the matter.

Food for thought.


If drugs were legal Part 1 (http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/107200/If_Drugs_Were_Legal_Part_1_6.html)
Part 2 (http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/107402/If_Drugs_Were_Legal_Part_2_6.html)
Part 3 (http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/107470/If_drugs_were_legal_Part_3_6.html)
Part 4 (http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/107486/If_drugs_were_legal_Part_4_6.html)
Part 5 (http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/107489/If_drugs_were_legal_Part_5_6.html)
Part 6 (http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/107562/If_drugs_were_legal_Part_6_6.html)

Some very interesting comments.



since the age of 12 i have used most street drugs, for the exception of herion and crystal meth.
Now at 35 i smoke alittle bit of pot now and then. i nolonger care to walk around stoned all the time. i want to be in my right mind while at work or doing some task of importance.
i believe the drugs,(mostly pot) have helped me more then they have hurt me. in many ways being stoned opened my mind, and helped improve cognisence and preception while removing some of the blinders that were put on during childhood. it has tought me to think outside the box.
i will freely admit thats drugs, all drugs, can grab on to someone and ruin their lives, but drugs are not the cause. they are the effect. the cause is a weak will, or the addict has self worth issues, or is deluded into thinking it's all right to escape rather then face and overcome tough issues,(usally emtional).

taking drugs is a choice, and one that can be made by the person. does this said person give in or fight for control of thier own mind and will and life.

all that being said, i am addicted to cigerattes. i keep losing the battle and they still have a hold on me even though it is loosening. it is not long now till i stop, this i know. i have already dropped the bottle and seldom drink alcohol. what i find funny is i can buy these at the local store.

drug or alcohol addiction is not a disease, it's a mental problem. sometime a big problem, sometime a problem that can be easily overcome. so i will say again, drugs are not the cause, they are the effect.

the cause is the person not knowing, under educated in the drug and how it can lead to addiction and control one's actions and thoughts if the one isn't stong enough to fight back.

a person driving a car blindfolded would do alot a harm.
take the blindfold off and driving a car can be done safely and for the betterment of the drivers life



DRUGS ARE NOT THE CAUSE
THEY ARE THE EFFECT

[Saden]

DRUGS ARE NOT THE CAUSE
THEY ARE THE EFFECT


Meaning?

[Total_Overkill]

ya... any who... can any one please point out to me 1 negative side effect of smoking pot thats more potent/worse then alchol? cause from where im sitting, alchol trumps weed in the negative areas... whats the worse weed can do? give you the killer munchies?

-> I wonder if its possible to become SO baked, that a person could find Fox News, truely humorous <-

Dont change my colors

[Schrem [506th PIR]]

Erm, my uncle died because of pot. He got a psychosis and jumped off a bridge....

[CBowling]

The link between Cannabis and Psychosis is still not well-established. They say that it can POSSIBLY increase the RISK of psychosis, but not necessarily trigger it.

Also, studies show that while the use of cannabis has increased over the years, the reports of psychosis have not increased at all, suggesting that there is no direct casual link.

[Manstein]

I don't mind if they legalize it. I don't smoke it, but I don't like the government regulating what people can and can't do. They could just restrict its use similar to alchohol, say 18+, and make it illegal to drive under the influence. The company I work for issues random drug screenings, and these include a breathalizer to test for alchohol, so I don't really see a problem with having legal marijuana.

Some say people will ruin their lives with it. Well, the government isn't here to protect you from yourself. If you want to take the risk, that's on you. If you want to waste your life, that's on you as well. As far as I'm concerned, marijuana doesn't ruin their life, they do.

[ShaunCowdell]

^^^ That's what it means Saden.


Add one more restrict point. You can't smoke it in public. Much like alcohol.

[Cortex]

It should be legal. I don`t see whats wrong with Marijuana.

[Saden]

If you think about it, it would suck to have it legalized, I mean the stuff smells like cow shit, imagine the smell of cow shit everywhere you go?

[Cortex]

If you think about it, it would suck to have it legalized, I mean the stuff smells like cow shit, imagine the smell of cow shit everywhere you go?

Yeah, nevermind, i hate the smell of the crap.

[ShaunCowdell]

If it is legalised it would ahve the same restrictions of alcohol, if not more. Obviouskly you would'nt be able to smoke it in public.