Chinese hate, Japanese hate.

[Chukada]

Good afternoon everyone. I have known for a long time that the Chinese strongly dislike the Japanese at this current day of age. I know it; my mother knows it.

During my search for knowledge I have uncovered various things that would have been good if untrue. Things so disgusting it's hard to imagine that such events could be the result of such an honourable crazed race.

The nation under the Red Sun has done terrible things to its larger neighbour during the Second Sino-Japanese War; also known as the Second World War. Things including the Rape of Nanking, Unit 731, Mass Killings, Racism, Comfort Women, Looting, Biological Warfare on both Military Personal and Civilians and preventable famine; to name a few.

As of yet; the Japanese have made no efforts to aid the millions of innocents still suffering today from Japanese Biological Warfare and Conduct. Honours its war criminals as heroes. The like!

The Japanese Education Department has made a great effort into downplaying the Japanese atrocities and invasions. By applying careful use of language. Whenever other parties point a finger at the terrible things the Japanese have commited and have not acknowledged nor appologized for; they play the part of the victem. Not slow to tell the world of the two atomic bombs; however fail to point out on how they misled their own civilians, using propreganda, portraying the Americans as monsters who take no prisoners.

What are your opinions on this foulplay and is the Chinese hate against Japan justified; even to this day of age?

[Total_Overkill]

So... thats it? one incident is your basis? i suggest reading deeper into asian history, its a good read... lots of wars, pillaging, plagues, trade embargos, assassinations... good times, chinese and japanese have always had problems with each other, but their society is far more effective in handling the conflict then other societies.

So its really nothing to worry about, just another wasteful peace issue, which i hope no government official pays attention to... last thing Asia needs is "Western" Diplomacy :rolleyes: their fine, leave them be.

oh before i forget



The Japanese Education Department has made a great effort into downplaying the Japanese atrocities and invasions. By applying careful use of language. Whenever other parties point a finger at the terrible things the Japanese have commited and have not acknowledged nor appologized for; they play the part of the victem. Not slow to tell the world of the two atomic bombs; however fail to point out on how they misled their own civilians, using propreganda, portraying the Americans as monsters who take no prisoners.


Every country who has EVER..... EVER been in a war is guilty of such things, its politics and pride, both of which predate all recorded conflicts >.> so..... ya

Even Canada is guilty of propaganda.... o_O freaky huh?

[|:XAS:| Bravo]

So... thats it? one incident is your basis?

Why do you always attack people? Always acting like you know better and that what you say is right. Selfish know-it-all. Typical spoiled liberal brat.

He didn't make any statements. He asked questions with facts to back them up for some background history.

If you're so smart then why don't you tell us what's the real reason for the foul play? Saves us time for other things, like life.

Oh, before I forget; work on your grammar.

[2ltben]

Every country who has EVER..... EVER been in a war is guilty of such things, its politics and pride, both of which predate all recorded conflicts >.> so..... ya

Even Canada is guilty of propaganda.... o_O freaky huh?
It depends on the teacher and the quality of the course. I had an AP History teacher who was absolutely vicous concerning the Gilded Age and more or less the entire involvement with Native Americans.

[Total_Overkill]

It depends on the teacher and the quality of the course. I had an AP History teacher who was absolutely vicous concerning the Gilded Age and more or less the entire involvement with Native Americans.

oh, no no... not teachers (although im sure that has happens as well) i was reffering to the governments themselves.

[Zip]

So... thats it? one incident is your basis? i suggest reading deeper into asian history, its a good read... lots of wars, pillaging, plagues, trade embargos, assassinations... good times, chinese and japanese have always had problems with each other, but their society is far more effective in handling the conflict then other societies.


Most people know(well down here anyway) that the Japanese were quite savage in WW2.
Just look at the Burmese rail road and how they got that built.
Look at the POW camps they had.
In WW2 they were very savage, they made the countrys involved with them fear them.

I dont hold a grudge against them but i definitely know how bad they treated POWs and how they tortured quite a few people

Thing so Disgusting that this statement is spot on.


Things so disgusting it's hard to imagine that such events could be the result of such an honourable crazed race.

[|:XAS:| Bravo]

I like the Chinese over the the Japanese. My mom is Japanese so I've been there a couple times. However my extended family on my dad's side is Chinese. The only thing that keeps me from liking the Chinese more is the communism.

[Manstein]

China and Japan are regional rivals. It's no surprise that there is competition and animosity between them, especially now that China has caught up to Japan in many respects.

Somewhat off topic, but my opinion on the current balance in the Pacific is that the US should release Japan from its Naval restrictions so they might operate as a couter-balance to China.

[|:XAS:| Bravo]

But our naval port and air field is there! This is how we can do a preemptive strike on North Korea if need be!

If I remember correctly I heard a legend of the emperor of China telling some of his soldiers to look for something (gold or something of big value) and if they didn't find it then don't bother to return. So they didn't find it and they just set up camp in present day Japan.

[Manstein]

I didn't say we had to leave, just let Japan develop a blue water Navy again, hell an AF too

[|:XAS:| Bravo]

The JDF... or do you mean their own unrestricted forces?

[Chukada]

So... thats it? one incident is your basis?

Sounds to me like your dismissing the entire destructive Second Sino-Japanese War. This isn't just another conflict that happened over who gets the rice fields; this is a racial war; an atrocious one. Unlike the thousands of battles the two respected nations waged on each other; this one still affects millions of Chinese and other Asian peoples today.

Its obvious you understand the history that unfolded between the two neighbours; but do you know the extent of the Japanese determination to wipe out all Chinese. Employing plague warfare on populations of Cities they had already captured! Entire families, terminated. Thousand-year-old monuments, burned.


Kill all, Loot all, Burn all. This was the thinking of the Japanese military and its government. The atrocious behaviour was not committed by the individual grunts; but by the lieutenants, the captains, the generals; the leaders. Japanese soldiers were ordered to commit these acts of barbarism, they were encouraged to rape, murder and torture innocent civilians, White and Yellow.


The effects can still be seen in present day China. The lucky ones were either killed on the field of battle; or shot while running away. Prisoners were forced to work beyond their health; those who could not were murdered; those who could; but were an enemy to the Empire; were murdered too.


Japanese texts tell of honourable characters, heroes. They talk of liberating Asia from white supremacy; and fail to mention their acts of barbarism. There is absolutely no honour in killing as many innocent Chinese civilians as you can.
However the mentality was that the Emperor; your god, would be proud of you.


This isn't one case of butchering, nor is it a petty conflict seen throughout history. The post war Germany was able to pay for their crimes; helped clear mines from Denmark; aided in the reconstruction; the restoration. Germany has apologized for its crimes against humanity and has actually done something to help its victims. Japan has done nothing for the people of Asia. Not apologized, nor paid for their sins. Millions of Chinese people were murdered; in the most horrific fashions that easily over-shadow Nazi treatment of Jews. Japan has done nothing to help its marutas.

Marutas-http://www.sjwar.org/htm/731-07.html

[enigma]

Guys can we please stay on topic, if you want to discuss the US involment in SE Asia, there position on China, Taiwan, Korea and Japan and wheater whoever should have XYZ please open up a new topic on it. ;)

Total_Overkill, i think your position in your first post has completly missed the point. Russia and portions of Europe had/have been rivials for some time we look at World War 1, the Civil War, Polish-Russo War, Winter War etc ... however when the Second World War arrives both sides gp up a gear ... massive ammounts of attrocities, genocide etc you just dont down play it because well we been at each others throats for so long...

Just a comparative argument :)

[Total_Overkill]

i fail to see the negative aspects in such things... :D

This is the way asia has always been in combat, chinese and japanese alike (and the lessers). Its the way their society works, their warrior culture, who's empires are still respectively the oldest in present history.

So why judge and interfere in their affairs? Its not our right or place, who are we to say that our views are "right" in the first place? As i've said, their society know how to handle these things amongst themselves, we just have to let them be.

China and Japan havent exactly asked the world to step in and destroy the opposing side, so as such we have no stake in the troubles.

Besides, who cares about the type of tactics that each employ? its war, it doesnt matter, its all the same... people die, shit happens, everything is "legal" as long as you win. Biological? Chemical warfare? forbidden and barbaric? please... America still uses Chemical weapons (White Phosphorus grenades for example are commonly used to flush out insurgents, and is highly known to cause burns on skin and lungs... its legal for the U.S, why? because they choose NOT to participate in certain war treaties that ban such weaponry... same as China and Japan)

And what of this word... "Propaganda" i keep hearing it, but it doesnt sound like any one knows about it, does it really matter if Japanese soldiers are considered heroes because they raped and murdered some Chinese? They followed their commanders and emperors orders and they were honored for it, thats basic military. You want a look at propaganda, turn on CNN, and you get 2 types, Anti-American, and Pro-American... turn on FOX Pro-American... Algezira(sp?) Anti-American... what do you expect Japanese culture would be SO different from the rest of the world that they WOULDNT hide anything negative to their Culture?


Just leave China and Japan to themselves, they've been life long foes, like 2 old men fighting for long forgotten reasons, sooner or later they'll get allsheimers and go buy some milk forgetting that the old geizer across from them, spilt it in the first place... well, either that or have a heart attack... (and by heart attack i mean internal social uprising)



Dont just go on a rant and point out all the "bad" things Japan has done either, China is just as guilty (if not more so).

[Total_Overkill]

Guys can we please stay on topic, if you want to discuss the US involment in SE Asia, there position on China, Taiwan, Korea and Japan and wheater whoever should have XYZ please open up a new topic on it. ;)

Total_Overkill, i think your position in your first post has completly missed the point. Russia and portions of Europe had/have been rivials for some time we look at World War 1, the Civil War, Polish-Russo War, Winter War etc ... however when the Second World War arrives both sides gp up a gear ... massive ammounts of attrocities, genocide etc you just dont down play it because well we been at each others throats for so long...

Just a comparative argument :)

Ah, but why not down play it, and let the past be the past? why open the old wounds when you've just become allies? it serves no good purpose... the enemy of my enemy, is my friend... even if we hate each other... but after our enemy is dead, why must we turn on each other? damn i hate humanity...

[enigma]

So because they have been at it for so long means that its ok to commit such atrocities?
You are also trying to the turn the discussion away from the actual question, this is not about American or Western policy in Asia currently, nor the use of Chemical weapons in Iraq nor about modern propaganda. Please try to stay on topic...

A few were raped?
The Nanking Massacre which has been referred to is a single example, when the city fell - from what ive read the Japanese army for the next 6 weeks killed up 300 000 civilians and raped nearly 100 000 of varying ages.3

What about the "Comfort Woman" ... forced prostitution and basically sex slaves ... appear the min number is around 200 000.

As for the old, i was just following orders. Thats a load of shite ;) People have a choice they always do ...they chose to murder and rape where there is no "honour" and saying you were following orders is a lame excuse.
Further proof of such is when that entire line of defence was thrown out the window at Nuremberg ... we hung a load of people, quite rightly, who tried to use that...

To actually use a real life comparison, in work there was a big debate weather forms we had been given to fill in would be double funding which is fraud. If that was the case and we had done them ... we would be responsible for that and we would be the ones who would be done for fraud... tell them that our boss told us to it and we were just following orders ... doesn’t cut it...



Ah, but why not down play it, and let the past be the past? why open the old wounds when you've just become allies? it serves no good purpose... the enemy of my enemy, is my friend... even if we hate each other... but after our enemy is dead, why must we turn on each other? damn i hate humanity...
because if we forget our past we are likely to repeat it.
Germany and the UK are friends now ... we all know what happened 60 years ago ... do we hate each other? no.

Do we hate the Americans or the French ... or the countless other countries we have fought in our past ... no, but we know on the most part we did and vice versa.

Also, this war happened in quite alot of peoples life times, should the crimes committed within there lifetime be forgotten so soon?

[Chukada]

I find it very difficult to belive that there is nothing morally wrong with being injected with bubonic plague, then have your organs sugerly removed while you're prone to pain and fully awake.


Ah, but why not down play it, and let the past be the past?“I have just killed your entire family by throwing them in Microwaves and pressure tubes. Your mother I raped, your father made a nice addition to my pork belly stew; his head currently resides on my dinning room wall. Your baby sister was boiled alive to keep my servants amused, then thrown off a cliff to see if she would make a funny noise when she hit the ground. Your girlfriend, the innocent one; which you love. Was tossed around like a sex toy among rowdy perverted men; under my supervision. Then we stuck a bamboo shoot up here Vagina; all the way in and out through her mouth. You've just watched this from under your bed, as you can clearly see, we enjoyed it very much, stole your white rice and steamed fish, ate it too along side the entertainment your substandard family provided by being butchered. Oh yeah, all your beliefs are those of the devil; the very blood that has flowed through your families veins is impure. Your religion is a hoax, your country undeserving of happiness. We've also commit this act of amusement upon your friend's families too...Oh yeah and fuck you."

But of course, the Chinese have gone to war with Japan, commited some of their own smaller atrocities. So its all justified.

[Total_Overkill]

So because they have been at it for so long means that its ok to commit such atrocities?
You are also trying to the turn the discussion away from the actual question, this is not about American or Western policy in Asia currently, nor the use of Chemical weapons in Iraq nor about modern propaganda. Please try to stay on topic...

Im trying to stay on topic, but also try to use modern examples, i know it trails off at times :p

But the entire basis around the OP's arguement, is that what happened is "wrong" and immoral/improper and what not. Im just trying to point out, that our cultures differ, and as such... these "atrocities" do not hold the same value in other cultures, so in and of itself, we are judging them and their culture.

Just look through things in the eyes of a Japanese citizen, then Chinese, then any western country.... then attempt to look at it all with threw a "blank slate" no bias, no opinion, no induced morals... you'll find that its not wrong, not right, and just a common event in history... just another drop in a leaky bucket.

Now i know thats hard to do, because you've grown up being taught killing is wrong, dont steal, etc... (so have i) but when you look back upon the world, none of these seem important any more... and some other mumbo jumbo...

(i swear im not high.... ok maybe a little)

In short, in doesnt matter, none of it does. The more we try to prevent, the more it happens, just let shit run its course. Everything will always work out for the better... either we all learn to live together and have world peace or we'll all be dead... either way... it sure will be peaceful :D

[enigma]

Am not looking through a basis western point of view ... am looking at as a human being...

[Total_Overkill]

“I have just killed your entire family by throwing them in Microwaves and pressure tubes. Your mother I raped, your father made a nice addition to my pork belly stew; his head currently resides on my dinning room wall. Your baby sister was boiled alive to keep my servants amused, then thrown off a cliff to see if she would make a funny noise when she hit the ground. Your girlfriend, the innocent one; which you love. Was tossed around like a sex toy among rowdy perverted men; under my supervision. Then we stuck a bamboo shoot up here Vagina; all the way in and out through her mouth. You've just watched this from under your bed, as you can clearly see, we enjoyed it very much, stole your white rice and steamed fish, ate it too along side the entertainment your substandard family provided by being butchered. Oh yeah, all your beliefs are those of the devil; the very blood that has flowed through your families veins is impure. Your religion is a hoax, your country undeserving of happiness. We've also commit this act of amusement upon your friend's families too...Oh yeah and fuck you."

But of course, the Chinese have gone to war with Japan, commited some of their own smaller atrocities. So its all justified.

Im eating pizza right now, and i swear i laughed so hard, i blew a pepperoni chunk out my nose when i read this... (no i didnt eat it after words...:rolleyes: )


But yes, if you did all that... the average person would loathe you to an undescribable amount (me? i could care less, didnt involve me personally ;) )
but now imagine some one else did something EVEN WORSE then that... to both of us... we teamed up and eliminated him, why must we start the cycle between us again? Sure, what you did was horrid, but we were able to get past it for the brief instance to destroy some one else... you know, im sure you can finish off the rest of this in your head...

BUT... what if no one else attempted to destroy either of us? leaving us no chance to join forces? would i retaliate? yes. So far, this is how its been with China and Japan, they've never had a common enemy (yet... and its coming, take note U.S) so they continue their revenge cycle, except... the fashion in which they do it is different then that of the Middle and Western societies. Things will carry on until theres a winner and a loser... or best case scenario... permanent draw.

[Chukada]

Alright lets get rid of my "basic western set of ideology". Sorry I tried, nothing has changed so I'll repeat myself.

"I find it very difficult to belive that there is nothing morally wrong with being injected with bubonic plague, then have your organs sugerly removed while you're prone to pain and fully awake."

[Total_Overkill]

Am not looking through a basis western point of view ... am looking at as a human being...

ah... well, ya.... i wasnt :D

ok problem solved, im an unhuman little bastard (yes i wrote this, not a mod.... seriously)

[Chukada]

Im eating pizza right now, and i swear i laughed so hard, i blew a pepperoni chunk out my nose when i read this... (no i didnt eat it after words...:rolleyes: )


But yes, if you did all that... the average person would loathe you to an undescribable amount (me? i could care less, didnt involve me personally ;) )
but now imagine some one else did something EVEN WORSE then that... to both of us... we teamed up and eliminated him, why must we start the cycle between us again? Sure, what you did was horrid, but we were able to get past it for the brief instance to destroy some one else... you know, im sure you can finish off the rest of this in your head...

BUT... what if no one else attempted to destroy either of us? leaving us no chance to join forces? would i retaliate? yes. So far, this is how its been with China and Japan, they've never had a common enemy (yet... and its coming, take note U.S) so they continue their revenge cycle, except... the fashion in which they do it is different then that of the Middle and Western societies. Things will carry on until theres a winner and a loser... or best case scenario... permanent draw.

You only missed one fact. The Chinese are demanding justice to the disgusting treatment of innocent human life, commited by the acts of the Japanese! This isn't about some giant discussion on war and American involvement. This is about blatent disgusting acts of savage torture against humanity fueled by racism and a lust for bloodshed.

The average Japanese is a good person, friendly and respectful. But they don't have the knowledge of what their beloved nation has stolen during the years of 1932-1945. Human Life, on the grand scale.

You underestimate humanity. Sure we've commited horrific brutalities, but how many stood up against that evil. How many Chinese have fought during the Second Sino-Japanese War, to protect their farm, their family, their existence. I'm disgusted, why, when you obviously respect these two old countries; do you insult them.

This is how the Chinese and Japanese function, you say. I say, that is wrong. The cultures are different, yes. However I will not belive you when you say that there is nothing wrong with what I have said twice already.

"I find it very difficult to belive that there is nothing morally wrong with being injected with bubonic plague, then have your organs sugerly removed while you're prone to pain and fully awake."

Thats not a "basic western point of view". That is a basic human point of view. I would imagine, that the oldest nations on earth, share this similar basic human emotion.


Im eating pizza right now, and i swear i laughed so hard, i blew a pepperoni chunk out my nose when i read this... (no i didnt eat it after words...:rolleyes: )


But yes, if you did all that... the average person would loathe you to an undescribable amount (me? i could care less, didnt involve me personally ;) )
but now imagine some one else did something EVEN WORSE then that... to both of us... we teamed up and eliminated him, why must we start the cycle between us again? Sure, what you did was horrid, but we were able to get past it for the brief instance to destroy some one else... you know, im sure you can finish off the rest of this in your head...

BUT... what if no one else attempted to destroy either of us? leaving us no chance to join forces? would i retaliate? yes. So far, this is how its been with China and Japan, they've never had a common enemy (yet... and its coming, take note U.S) so they continue their revenge cycle, except... the fashion in which they do it is different then that of the Middle and Western societies. Things will carry on until theres a winner and a loser... or best case scenario... permanent draw.


I pray you don't become a comedien.

[Total_Overkill]

:p I think i'll continue on with this point, as everything else we've said still pretty much stands, as is.



"I find it very difficult to belive that there is nothing morally wrong with being injected with bubonic plague, then have your organs sugerly removed while you're prone to pain and fully awake."

Thats not a "basic western point of view". That is a basic human point of view. I would imagine, that the oldest nations on earth, share this similar basic human emotion.

With this example, i will show you the difference in what im attempting to say,
You are right in that No human would find that acceptable... BUT... many cultures would consider that acceptable treatment of their enemies.
Western cultures would NOT find it acceptable treatment of their enemies.

Chinese and Japanese (have in the past, and i suspect, now still) consider such things acceptable to their enemies (when it suits their purposes). Both sides know this, about themselves, and each other. They accept it, at face value, and deal with it accordingly

Yet again im trailing off topic, but does any of what im saying make sense? i know it can be hard at times to follow my thought process.



I pray you don't become a comedien.

Heh, would have thought "Politician" instead of "Comedian"... even though i consider both proffesions to be jokes..... AHAHAHA ;)

[Chukada]

Heh, would have thought "Politician" instead of "Comedian"... even though i consider both proffesions to be jokes..... AHAHAHA ;)

Hahaha, real funny. :rolleyes:

Although I strongly disagree with all your points, this was still a good discussion. I'm looking forward to continuing it, but for now, I'm done. ;)
Time to take a break, they always help. :D

[NicholasJohnson]

So far, this is how its been with China and Japan, they've never had a common enemy (yet... and its coming, take note U.S)

Um, do you have any evidence for Japan attacking its strongest ally (which happens to have thousands of troops in Japan) or are you just fantasizing about your "total war" with this statement?

[Corporate Ignorance]

If we or our friends are subjected to crimes,we all yell about "injustice"...But when we are safe, content and confident in tomorrow, then we can all call ourselves an "inhuman little bastards", Overkill.))) I just hope(I really do) that you never witness REAL shit in this life. But it existed. And it still exists in huge amount all over the world. Belive me.


As for Japan- the most terrible atrocities were commited by Japanese during WW2, especially their attitude to Chinese POWs( I guess, everyone knows what I'm talknig about). Btw, Chinise really don't like Europe as well. And it's justifed too. So, all history of human kind is a history of hatred, expansion, suffering of the innocent, global lies, manipulation of public opinion, false history, deforming propoganda and endless mistakes.
Yeah, I am very postive again in my usual manner.:) So, we should be more empathetic to Chinese. If we try to imagine ourselves in place of other humans, no matter living or dead,, it makes us better human beings. My firm belief.

[Total_Overkill]

Um, do you have any evidence for Japan attacking its strongest ally (which happens to have thousands of troops in Japan) or are you just fantasizing about your "total war" with this statement?

i suppose its really both, ive just taken everything i know of asian culture, world state, politics, and war... and pumped it out in the most likely scenario that "current events" allows for.

(btw did you know the "white man" is still reffered to as "the foreign devil"? ;) )

[NicholasJohnson]

Talk to Western people who have lived in Asia for several years and get back to me. I know countless people who have lived there. I have Korean friends, they don't refer to Westerners as "devils". Asians (excluding the DPRK) are not out for the white man's blood.

[Total_Overkill]

Well, i was reffering to China and Japan (more so, Japan)... i cant speak about Koreans as i dont have much contact with any, and my knowledge about their specific history is limited (at best :p ). Who knows, maybe my encounters thus far have been from Asian rascists (not something you hear much about i might add... i actually wonder, why?)

[Zip]

Well, i was reffering to China and Japan (more so, Japan)... i cant speak about Koreans as i dont have much contact with any, and my knowledge about their specific history is limited (at best :p ). Who knows, maybe my encounters thus far have been from Asian rascists (not something you hear much about i might add... i actually wonder, why?)



Ok let me just feel in some things you arnt thinking of.

Japan, They are huge Exporters and a lot of there market is the USA, UK and Australia. They would want to mess up the relations with those countrys because it will hurt them Financially.
A lot of the big Technology we have comes from Japan and big companys are based in both Japan and the US.

Now we get to China.
The reason China is Booming at the moment is due to the massive amount of money America pumps into it to set up factories, They have been holding onto this money and the china we see to day is because of that. They Heavily rely on the US to keep there Economy running like that, They can not afford to threaten America or its allies with any military action let alone actually lay a finger on them.
If they did there Economy would collapse.
Now guess who is one of the Biggest buyers of Coal and Uranium from Australia is? You guessed it. China. If they went to war with our Allies or us the Supply would be cut, They would run out of recourses and not have anything to keep there country powered, If china was a human it would Starve to death.

The only real threat from Asia we have is really from North Korea, They seem, to have the Aggression, They are always talking big but even though they do that i still dont think they have the Capability to cause much damage to any country that is far away like the US, UK or Australia.

And South Korea cant lose being allies with the US or North Korea will have a field day with them


I do not see Any Asian country having any conflict with the Western World unless North Korea Attacks South Korea

[SuperSoldier]

Ok let me just feel in some things you arnt thinking of.

Japan, They are huge Exporters and a lot of there market is the USA, UK and Australia. They would want to mess up the relations with those countrys because it will hurt them Financially.
A lot of the big Technology we have comes from Japan and big companys are based in both Japan and the US.

Now we get to China.
The reason China is Booming at the moment is due to the massive amount of money America pumps into it to set up factories, They have been holding onto this money and the china we see to day is because of that. They Heavily rely on the US to keep there Economy running like that, They can not afford to threaten America or its allies with any military action let alone actually lay a finger on them.
If they did there Economy would collapse.
Now guess who is one of the Biggest buyers of Coal and Uranium from Australia is? You guessed it. China. If they went to war with our Allies or us the Supply would be cut, They would run out of recourses and not have anything to keep there country powered, If china was a human it would Starve to death.

The only real threat from Asia we have is really from North Korea, They seem, to have the Aggression, They are always talking big but even though they do that i still dont think they have the Capability to cause much damage to any country that is far away like the US, UK or Australia.

And South Korea cant lose being allies with the US or North Korea will have a field day with them


I do not see Any Asian country having any conflict with the Western World unless North Korea Attacks South Korea

I saw a documentary about war with NK a while ago. If the war were to happen they would push pretty far into SK, but the counterattack would completely destroy their country. Even facing this, Kim Jong Il might still attack due too his country starving. He knows the outcome but he will do it anyway.