Next World War?

[SambuthLong]

Any one have any ideas when the next world war is gonna happen? what i think is it's gonna start with North Korea. you know because all their nuclear bombs and stuff? they will launch a bomb into a country and kill many of innocent of people. then many of countries will be very pissed and start to gang up on north korea. thats in my opinion, whats yours?

World War 3!! i heard it on the news :eek:......im scared

[Kaos]

Moved to the political forum.

[Total_Overkill]

Any one have any ideas when the next world war is gonna happen? what i think is it's gonna start with North Korea. you know because all their nuclear bombs and stuff? they will launch a bomb into a country and kill many of innocent of people. then many of countries will be very pissed and start to gang up on north korea. thats in my opinion, whats yours?

Highly unlikely, the G8 vs 1, is not a world war, its a cluster fuck...

It wouldnt even be a war, unless China sided with North Korea (and since South Korea is most likely the target of the nuclear devices, i doubt China will hold its alliance, do to potential fallout issues so close to its borders)

If China sides with N.K, then things will get interesting, if not... bye bye N.K.


Plus, we ALL know the next World War, will be started by them damn Swede's :p

[Kaos]

North Korea hasn't been involved in a conflict since the 1950's. On the other the USA, which has the world's largest arsenal of nuclear weapons, has been involved in quite a few! Yes, I'm just trying to be provocative.

Anyway, I view the "War on terror" as a sort of World War. Considering on one side we have the Coalition of the Willing - A loose collection of countries united behind America pitted against what the West calls 'rogue states' and 'terrorists'; typically Iran, Syria, North Korea, Insurgents in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Africa. The war crosses lots of national borders and at least two continents and involves hundreds of thousands of soldiers. Close enough to a world war?

[DavidUpton]

I think Russia's turning into a bit of a threat at the moment.

I think I might have to kill Corporate Ignorance. ;)

[[BEF]-R!G4M0RT!Z]

I think I might have to kill Corporate Ignorance. ;)


OH NOES!!!! :O :O :O

But, S.L.U.D.G.E. Are SO amazing!

[Wundai]

Good thing you're keeping it light, at least until someone like me comes along and says:

How about NoT expecting another World War that kills alotta people ;)

[Hyperion2010]

Probably never as long as countries maintain nuclear arsenals.

[Corporate Ignorance]

I think Russia's turning into a bit of a threat at the moment.

I think I might have to kill Corporate Ignorance. ;)

Hm, those proud Brits again seem to be very detemined about restoration of British Empire, so something should be done to withhold their imperialistic ambitions- it would be nice to see how United Kingdom will turn(with Russia's help) into British Socialist Republic))) I know how happy ordinary Brits will be, while building the "bright future" where everybody are equal, happy and Spice Girls are officially forbidden by the ideological law...)))))

[OliverMarshall]

:o:

[Jensen]

I think Russia should win the next World War just because they created S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Or never mind.

I spent three and a half hour discussing this with my uncle and my cousin's husband yesterday. And we came to agree that the next world war will start when resources run scarce. Most likely America has gotten a head start with invading Iraq. It will be oil shortage that starts the next world war.

[Corporate Ignorance]

-R!G4M0RT!Z;83143']OH NOES!!!! :O :O :O

But, S.L.U.D.G.E. Are SO amazing!

Heh, you are too kind, bro.:)))
Thanks!)))

[SambuthLong]

I think Russia should win the next World War just because they created S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Or never mind.

I spent three and a half hour discussing this with my uncle and my cousin's husband yesterday. And we came to agree that the next world war will start when resources run scarce. Most likely America has gotten a head start with invading Iraq. It will be oil shortage that starts the next world war.

how come we need to kill then? whats the point of killing? less people? why dont they just be friendly and buy the oil?:confused:

[Sgt So and So]

how come we need to kill then? whats the point of killing? less people? why dont they just be friendly and buy the oil?:confused:

Because we used all our money to buy guns during the Cold War. Oops!

[enigma]

Hm, those proud Brits again seem to be very detemined about restoration of British Empire, so something should be done to withhold their imperialistic ambitions- it would be nice to see how United Kingdom will turn(with Russia's help) into British Socialist Republic))) I know how happy ordinary Brits will be, while building the "bright future" where everybody are equal, happy and Spice Girls are officially forbidden by the ideological law...)))))

To get rid of those bimbos ... where do i sign! :D

[Blame Canada]

I'm gonna go Samuel P. Huntington-like and argue that the next world war will not be a war between political ideologies (spelling?) or a war for resources... these two factors may have an influence, but the spark that will ignite the fire will be cultural differences and/or religion.

The world is slowly moving towards a cultural war between the mostly christian-western countries and an islamic-middle-eastern block.

A cultural war between the USA with allies and the middle east, perhaps started by an attack on/by Israel could drag the world into a global conflict. With the USA occupied in the middle-east (and Afghanistan), Russia would have free hands to continue it's growth in power, by attacking former Soviet provinces in the Caucasus area. Worst case scenario includes India and Pakistan taking the chance to fight for Kashmir as well, and North Korea attacking it's southern twin while the US military forces are occupied elsewhere. This will force Japan into action, which will again force China to enter the frey (if they haven't already acted to the Indian-Pakistani conflict). Any US involvement in the area will probably need Taiwann as a base of some sort, which will force the Chinese to declare war on the USA... result... WWIII.

[enigma]

Thats not WW3 .... thats Armageddon!


And I saw three foul spirits like frogs coming from the mouth of the dragon, from the mouth of the beast, and from the mouth of the false prophet. These are demonic spirits, performing signs, who go abroad to the kings of the whole world, to assemble them for battle on the great day of God the Almighty. And they assembled them at the place that in Hebrew is called Harmagedon.[

And during the end of days, after the seven year rule of the Western World under one government thou will march out under thy banner of thy Antichrist to do battle with thy heathens from thy east. We will assemble at Tel Megiddo and there do battle with thy eastern horde who will advance to meet us ... and in the holy land the end of days will finally arrive....

..as it has been written shall it be done....

[Psycho Sam]

I think Russia's turning into a bit of a threat at the moment.

I think I might have to kill Corporate Ignorance. ;)

Russia is only getting shirt because America keeps pissing them off. American never know when to back down or the values of diplomacy. :rolleyes: But yeah I think the most likely "conflict" could be another cold war.

[-X-Sublime]

guys i hate to break it to you be we are a world at war

[JonasDahlin]

Well it won't bother sweden, we're always neutral when it comes to world wars :D

[enigma]

guys i hate to break it to you be we are a world at war

No were not, a few countries involvled in Afganistan and Iraq and "international terrorism" does not constitue a world war.

[-X-Sublime]

all the civil wars,rebelions,brigidans causeing unrest and attacking government convoys........all over...not just the middle east....i think there is alot of war goin on in our world

[enigma]

Nothing new there, that's been happening since tic tocked :p

[2ltben]

Major participants will only fund wars, not directly participate in them. This has even been shown recently, in Iraq there is an increasing reliance on mercenaries, and even in Vietnam, the opposition was funded by China and the USSR.

My guess is that is will be the two factions in the world: The US, the EU, and all of its supporters vs Russia, China, Syria, Iran, and all their supporters. It will largely be fought through a series of wars in undeveloped countries and transitional societies.

The Proxy War is a thing to be feared if for only one reason: It has all of the benefits of direct conflict without any of the detractors: You make all of the money from the supplies while its someone else's army who dies.

[enigma]

Bonuses:

1 - you stay alive
2 - your country isnt burnt up in a nuclear fire
3 - you get to make some nice easy cash funding and suppling those silly sods muah ha hahahahahah

$.$

[2ltben]

Let's not forget the under the table bonuses of private firms making money, and possibly even government subsidies, by selling to the other side. The US did that alot towards the end of the Cold War.

[Kaos]

I disagree with your idea of the new world 'blocs'. The US, EU and their supporters are already allied through various treaties such as NATO. The thing that unites them is their adherence to similar ideologies such as parliamentary democracy, neo-liberal market philosophies and to an extent, religion.

Russia, China, Syria and Iran lack this sort of cohesion. China professes to be Communist, Russia seems to want to embrace the free-market whilst remaining severely authoritarian and Syria and Iran are both theocracies. It's hard to see how a possible alliance could emerge out of this.

On the other hand; Iran has signed a few important economic and military pacts with Venezuela and Bolivia. I believe this is where the focus will be after the shenanigans in the Middle-east. The left-wing alliance between various South American countries and possible overseas allies (Such as Iran) will prove to be a bigger threat to the "Empire" (As they refer to the USA) than Russia and/or China.

[2ltben]

Russia, China, Syria and Iran lack this sort of cohesion. China professes to be Communist, Russia seems to want to embrace the free-market whilst remaining severely authoritarian and Syria and Iran are both theocracies. It's hard to see how a possible alliance could emerge out of this.
Russia is an authoritarian Capitalist society, China is an authoritarian Capitalist society, Syria is an authoritarian Capitalist society, Iran is an Republican Capitalist society, Venezuela is an authoritarian Capitalist society.

China and Russia are linked geographically and serve the interests of the East. Iran is a major link between them since it is close to both nations. Iran is closely linked to Venezuela and Cuba, and Syria is essentially a fence Iran uses to move goods it doesn't want traced back to them.

The most dangerous thing to arise out of this is the fact that the Bush administration has sewn the seeds of war just through the allegations of Iran building a bomb. Do the research and look at all of the economic and social policies that Admadinejad is enacting, even if they were repealed by Khameini. He needs a strong economy in Iran, and he views the nation's oil use as the chief problem facing the Iranian economy. The best way to reduce oil usage is to pursue alternate forms of energy, which includes the uranium atom.

I'm not saying the Iranian nuclear research program wasn't started with the intentions of building a bomb, MAD was still a policy when it was started, but that doesn't mean the program isn't being salvaged into something useful. Iran can't do a damn thing with a bomb. With nuclear power plants, however, Iran can make money, and since Ahmadinejad now has control over the budget, he can push forward his more liberal policies and perhaps even take power from Khameini.

Ahmadinejad has already laid out plans for a massive reform to the Iranian public transportation system, but so long as Iran needs to import oil, it can't happen. There just isn't the money, even after he got control of the budget.

And its important to realize the difference between Ahmadinejad and Iran. The Ahmadinejad administration has made open efforts to pursue women's rights, but every time they have a legislative victory, Khameini repeals the bill. Hell, some administration members are openly criticizing Khameini when he initiated a crackdown on women dressed in "improper hijabs."

[someonenewnoob]

It starts when North-Korea launches Atombomb to Russia and USA. Then Russia bombs USA and USA bombs Russia. Britain starts war against Russia. Russia gets China to it's alliance and they invade Japan. German and France starts war against Russia and China. Aftes some months Italy joins to German and France. Russia and China take Koreas and starts invading eastern and northern europe (Oh no... They take Finland too!). Cuba starts terrorist strikes to USA. Some muslim terrorists (no offence if someone here is muslim. I mean radicalist muslims who thinks that Islam is only right religion) see that their change had come and start terrorist strikes to USA. Africa countries start fighting against each others. UN falls, no one trust it. USA send some space ships to build little area on the moon where NATO, USA and countries' , which had allied with USA, leaders move to there. Southern America fall to war. Only Australia and India are in the peace. Pakistan attack to India, but get whacked by India. Iran&Iraq coalition (Iran had invaded Iraq) wants to help Pakistan. Some terrorists strikes to India and their leaders die in the strikes. India falls and there came 16 new nation. 5 strongest named:
1. Captain Pirk's kingdom(hope that you had looked Star Wreck)
2. Terrorist India
3. It only real India
4. Indian Pakistan
5. Reformed India
After 2 years war Australia decides to join USA's coalition.
After 10 years war:
-Russia are fallen
-USA are fallen
-China owns only Koreas' areas
-France are fallen (not anymore good wines)
-UK/Britain owns only Wales and England
-Italy are destroyed (no more Ferraris)
-Norway, Sweden and Finland had reformed to one nation: Finland - Sweden coalition who owns Norway, Sweden and Finland
-Ausralia owns Australia and New Zealand
-Switzerland are only nation which had been in the peace whole WW3 and lives in peace at the Alps
-South-America are reformed to Glory Argentina
-India are now reformed to 29 nations

It means that whole world are in chaos.


Next World War: World War IV had fighted with sticks and stones.

[aag567]

The South and North Korean presidents have recently proclaimed permanent peace. North Korea is even shutting down all its nuclear reactors, Kim Jong Il even gave 2 million dollars worth of mushrooms to the South Korean president. I still think they're going to invade the South, if they're gonna use nukes I bet they're going to use Chinese ones. I think it's just a ploy to get the UN forces to leave, I mean 2 million dollars worth of mushrooms? :confused:

[Blame Canada]

Fantasy scenario:

Chairmanship of OPEC falls to Venezuela and Hugo Chavez who with the support of Iran talks the other members into changing their oil trade from Dollar denominated accounts into Euro denominated accounts. This will crash the US economy, as all the countries of the world will need to buy euros. To do so they will have to sell their reserve of dollars, thus flooding the market and sending the dollar into a free fall. The USA can of course not accept this and must therefore take serious actions against the OPEC members in order to stop this.

(and yes... I've been watching Robert Newman's The History of Oil ;) )

[[FFTF]Eurofighter]

The South and North Korean presidents have recently proclaimed permanent peace. North Korea is even shutting down all its nuclear reactors, Kim Jong Il even gave 2 million dollars worth of mushrooms to the South Korean president. I still think they're going to invade the South, if they're gonna use nukes I bet they're going to use Chinese ones. I think it's just a ploy to get the UN forces to leave, I mean 2 million dollars worth of mushrooms? :confused:

That would explain why they are trying to make magic mushrooms illegal in my country... What about the gnomes you selfish fools!!!!

[lazlazlaz1]

I reckon that Lesotho will invade Chad. France will join in to build up an empire again. Then Germany will invade France through Belgium, because heck its fun. We will then join in to defend Poland, because they lose in Euro 2008 against Zimbabwe.

Jeremy Paxman will then piss off Gordon Brown so much that he invades Paxmans house, and America will step in as the world police again, claiming Gordon Brown to be a terrorist.

[2ltben]

The South and North Korean presidents have recently proclaimed permanent peace. North Korea is even shutting down all its nuclear reactors, Kim Jong Il even gave 2 million dollars worth of mushrooms to the South Korean president. I still think they're going to invade the South, if they're gonna use nukes I bet they're going to use Chinese ones. I think it's just a ploy to get the UN forces to leave, I mean 2 million dollars worth of mushrooms? :confused:
And why was North Korea giving it when their own citizens are starving? And in all likelihood they were just giving back what they were getting sent to them in foreign aid anyway.

[aag567]

And why was North Korea giving it when their own citizens are starving? And in all likelihood they were just giving back what they were getting sent to them in foreign aid anyway.

They were giving it to their own citizens? Anyway, what battles do you guys think would erupt and which would be the most intense? I think it would be a battle for New York city. It would probally be more intense than the battles for Fallujah, Berlin, Stalingrad, Seoul, Hue City, and Manila. With the Twin Towers and World Trade Center being fought for floor by floor, the soldiers fighting next to the windows would have it the worst with artillery, tanks, snipers, choppers, and rockets firing on them. With constant house to house combat, with mortars constantly firing precisely with observers on the skyscrapers, with MK19s and ASGs (full auto, belt fed grenade launchers) firing down on soldiers on the streets.

[Kaos]

They were giving it to their own citizens? Anyway, what battles do you guys think would erupt and which would be the most intense? I think it would be a battle for New York city. It would probally be more intense than the battles for Fallujah, Berlin, Stalingrad, Seoul, Hue City, and Manila. With the Twin Towers and World Trade Center being fought for floor by floor, the soldiers fighting next to the windows would have it the worst with artillery, tanks, snipers, choppers, and rockets firing on them. With constant house to house combat, with mortars constantly firing precisely with observers on the skyscrapers, with MK19s and ASGs (full auto, belt fed grenade launchers) firing down on soldiers on the streets.

I hate to disappoint you but the World Trade Centre doesn't exist anymore.

Got hit by a couple of planes wayback in '01. Didn't it make the news there?

[Lt. Hanley]

Aren't they in the process of rebuilding them? I seem to recall a competition where architects submitted designs for a new tower awhile ago and a winner was announced. Haven't really heard much since then. Maybe that's what he's referring to. Otherwise yeah, read the news much? :D

[aag567]

I hate to disappoint you but the World Trade Centre doesn't exist anymore.

Got hit by a couple of planes wayback in '01. Didn't it make the news there?

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I was talking about a World in Conflict type scenario. One that takes place in 1989. . . . . .

[Kaos]

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I was talking about a World in Conflict type scenario. One that takes place in 1989. . . . . .

Right. My bad.

Got confused with the thread being called "Next world war".

[CBowling]

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/end

This explains it the best anyone can.

[2ltben]

America's isolated enough from the other continents to make a land war virtually impossible. You just can't transport enough troops directly to the US without being able to WIN a huge sea and air battle first. If you try to go through Central America, the war will be fought and decided in Mexico long before Texas or California are reached. If its Mexico itself, you'll have a small ground war similar to actions in Somalia and the scenario that was presented in GRAW and GRAW2. There may be some fighting in Florida or Georgia, but nothing much because you just can't support it logistically without having 100% control over the air and sea.

If you want to see what a battle in NYC would look like, there's one going on right now. Look at Gaza.

[aag567]

Gaza? Wasn't the last battle there June 7? If so, only about 160 people died in that battle, the Fatah and Hamas forces aren't anywhere near as powerful as Russia or America. And does it have any buildings anywhere near as tall as the World Trade Center, the Empire State Building, or the Twin Towers? Does it have any rivers and islands of its own? 1,700 public parks? Anything like Times Square? Anything like the Metropolitan Museum of Art? And maybe Russia could've invaded us through the Aleutian islands, the Japanese did it in WW2.

[Exteral]

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/end

This explains it the best anyone can.

thats was reaally funny:D

[wfcxairborne]

Us Canadians will be chillen' somewhere.:p

[silentsniper_42]

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."- Einstein

[2ltben]

Gaza? Wasn't the last battle there June 7? If so, only about 160 people died in that battle, the Fatah and Hamas forces aren't anywhere near as powerful as Russia or America. And does it have any buildings anywhere near as tall as the World Trade Center, the Empire State Building, or the Twin Towers? Does it have any rivers and islands of its own? 1,700 public parks? Anything like Times Square? Anything like the Metropolitan Museum of Art? And maybe Russia could've invaded us through the Aleutian islands, the Japanese did it in WW2.
Does NYC have anywhere near the population density of Gaza? No.

[aag567]

How would that effect a major battle there other than the amount civilians that could get killed?

[Exteral]

How would that effect a major battle there other than the amount civilians that could get killed?

if two bombs of the same type goes of in a city, its gonna be more casualties in the city with the highest density, so if theres gonna be a fierce war in nyc and gaza, there probably would be more deaths in gaza!!

[Kaos]

if two bombs of the same type goes of in a city, its gonna be more casualties in the city with the highest density, so if theres gonna be a fierce war in nyc and gaza, there probably would be more deaths in gaza!!

There's already fierce wars in both New York and Gaza... does that mean WW3 has begun?

[Exteral]

theres not war in either nyc or gaza in the moment

[aag567]

if two bombs of the same type goes of in a city, its gonna be more casualties in the city with the highest density, so if theres gonna be a fierce war in nyc and gaza, there probably would be more deaths in gaza!!

I already knew that.

[Exteral]

!!


How would that effect a major battle there other than the amount civilians that could get killed?

didnt look like

[aag567]

How would that effect a major battle there other than the amount civilians that could get killed?

Um, it does. And I'm not talking about which battle would be the bloodiest.

[2ltben]

How would that effect a major battle there other than the amount civilians that could get killed?
How would that affect a major battle there other than affecting a major battle there?

[Kaos]

theres not war in either nyc or gaza in the moment

Actually there's continual fighting going in Gaza between Hamas and Fatah and various other Palestinian factions. On top of that, rocket attacks from Gaza are being directed into Israel and Israel responds by their own rocket attacks. If that's not a war I don't know what is.

More people were murdered in New York city than in Palestine over last year. Though I guess that's not really a war as such, unless you take into account gangs but that's stretching it.

But there is definately a war in Gaza and virtually has been since Israeli occupation and the multiple intifadas.