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masasan
10-05-2007, 10:20 PM
I know it must seem strange for some of you americans that a guy from Finland is starting a topic about US president elections. But since what happens in US has a huge affect on what happens in the rest of the world it's normal that we are interested.

Anyway, to the topic:

I was watching youtube videos about the elections and I found out about Republican nominee Ron Paul. Man he is so different from the rest of the candidates(republican and democrats). He is bringing out viewpoints that I guess many americans haven't even thought of. If he is elected the whole world is going to change, for the better. It takes courage to bring out the problems of US and not just tell what US people want to hear(that everything is fine and US current foreign policy and economics are not doomed to fail). And the best thing is that he got the answers to solve the problmes.

There are many videos about Ron Paul in youtube and I find this to be the most informative. You should check other videos also. Especially the ones where Fox interviewers desperately try to degrade him are hilarious(although concerning: Do some americans take these guys seriously? News reporting where reporters/interviewers are saying their opinions isn't free press, its propaganda.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWfIhFhelm8

So who are you supporting and why? And what do you think about Ron Paul?

2ltben
10-05-2007, 10:51 PM
Laissez Faire is fundamentally flawed because there still must be benevolent and equally applied legislation that pushes the market towards the requirements for Perfect Competition. This is clearly stated in the Second Theorem of Welfare Economics and is just as applicable with any other social resource as currency because of its fundamental founding in Game Theory.

Simplified Point: Libertarianism is often construed as a policy of inaction, but in truth it must be founded on a policy of equally beneficial action. This explains why equally applied legislation, such as sales tax, and conditional legislation, such as subsidies, and opposition to restraints of trade, such as anti-trust laws, are far more beneficial to a nation's economic and social structure than proportional laws, such as income tax.

Simplification of the Simplified Point: Libertarians cannot kick back every issue to the states and expect a sustainable society, they have to legislate in a way that benefits all in an equal amount.

Side note: If you want to see propaganda, look at the effect the government's attacks on Mahmoud Ahmadinejad are having on his international stance. He's viewed as an anti-Semite dictator when he clearly is not, he's roughly the Iranian equivalent of Bush, and if someone wants to take this point up in another thread, I do have research and facts to back this statement up.

-X-Sublime
10-07-2007, 11:48 PM
I was gunna vote for Ron Paul anyways but nice to know that theres others that think he is smart aswell

scottdog
10-08-2007, 07:33 AM
Might agree with him 90% more then the current republican canditades, but still wouldn't get my vote.

Jensen
10-08-2007, 09:40 PM
He would get my vote!

Total_Overkill
10-08-2007, 09:48 PM
Might agree with him 90% more then the current republican canditades, but still wouldn't get my vote.

90% of 0 is still 0 :D